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grahamb
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 Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: Antony M |
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Music is halal???  Try "haram" |
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canadashirleyblue
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I really did not meet many Saudis when I lived in the kingdom. The ones I did meet were quite nice.
I don't know how you meet Saudis. It is rare to come across them in daily life. The people who work in the kingdom who would cross your path are not Saudi. I wonder where they all are?
And you would never meet a Saudi of the opposite sex. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Antony M |
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| grahamb wrote: |
| Music is halal??? :shock: Try "haram" |
Actually there is considerable debate as to which it is.
My favourite story on this comes from the time I met some Imam Saud University students (those who go on to become imams) in a coffee shop in Riyadh. They were on scholarships and came from different Central Asian republics.
One of them complained bitterly about music being forbidden on campus. "They say music is forbidden, but my father is the grand mufti of Kazakhastan and I work part-time as a DJ at weekends. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| A similar story was reported about students from one of the Balkan States who was on a scholarship to the University in Medina, where they train imams and religious scholars. He is reported to have said,"I am serious about religion too but every normal person likes to have a beer now and then !" |
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Susan WW
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Islam/music/alcohol |
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Islam means
One should practice everything in moderation.
(heehee needless to say, practice moderation in moderation)
It is not what goes into your mouth Islam forbids, but that comes out of your mouth.( action)(after alcohol consumption).
Same rule applies to Music.
You should all know that Arabs/persians are great poets.
But Im not here to protect any arabs, just to share the true meaning of Islam.
I have never heard of complaints regarding Buddhist/HinduJewish/ christian religious practice. |
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trapezius
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| It is not what goes into your mouth Islam forbids, but that comes out of your mouth.( action)(after alcohol consumption). |
Hold on, did you just come here and say that alcohol is not forbidden in Islam???
Why do some people insist on talking about things they have absolutely no clue about?
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Islam means
One should practice everything in moderation. |
Except that, some things are forbidden, and if something is forbidden, how can you practice it in "moderation"?  |
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Susan WW
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| trapezius wrote: |
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Hold on, did you just come here and say that alcohol is not forbidden in Islam???
Why do some people insist on talking about things they have absolutely no clue about?
Except that, some things are forbidden, and if something is forbidden, how can you practice it in "moderation"? |
Have you ever tried "Natto""?? Japanese people have it almost everyday.
Japanese food most of us know is "tempura/sushi/miso".
I could describe "Natto" to you, but you will never have a clue as long as you dont experence it.  |
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trapezius
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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No, I have never tried it, but I know what it is.
Regardless, what does NATTO have anything to do with your original post and my reply to your post???
WHAT ARE YOU HIGH/STONED ON??? |
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Susan WW
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| trapezius wrote: |
No, I have never tried it, but I know what it is.
Regardless, what does NATTO have anything to do with your original post and my reply to your post???
WHAT ARE YOU HIGH/STONED ON??? |
NATTO 
One commercial about "Burito"
when asked , different asnwers like
It`s a donkey
Yeah I know him
Hmmm food
etc. |
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Van Norden
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Natto is fermented soy beans. Quite tasty with soy sauce and mustard.
How about tofu? We haven't discussed this in ages. Tell us about tofu consumption in Japan, SusanWW. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Can you guys go and write this up on your blogs please, not on a public forum about teaching in KSA. |
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007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Islam/music/alcohol |
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| Susan WW wrote: |
Islam means
One should practice everything in moderation. |
What is moderation?
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| It is not what goes into your mouth Islam forbids, but that comes out of your mouth.( action)(after alcohol consumption). |
The most important is your tongue not your mouth!
The tongue of a believer is at the back of his heart while the heart of a hypocrite is at the back of his tongue.
And I have heard that some people will have their tongue cut in the day of judgement.
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| Same rule applies to Music. |
There is no definite rules for Music.
Music is like Poem, there is good music and bad music. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The followers of some Islamic teachers assert that music is forbidden. |
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007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| The followers of some Islamic teachers assert that music is forbidden. |
Those are from Wahabism school. |
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trapezius
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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^ There are some ahadith saying music is forbidden! There is no point in discussing this here, as scholars are divided on it.
But drinking alcohol???
I still can't believe Susan WW said it is not forbidden in Islam, and that no one called her out on it. And when I called her out on it, she started talking about FERMENTED SOYBEANS.
She has gone cuckoo. I suggest staying away from her lest she infects anybody with her insanity. |
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