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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: Pay rises by 16% for State sector workers |
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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-04/29/content_579968.htm
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The average income for people working in the State sector rose by 16 per cent year on year to reach 5,000 yuan (US$630) for the first quarter of the year. |
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Income growth averaged about 13 per cent in other sectors. There was no information about migrant workers' incomes in the report. |
Should I ask why my wages don't rise by 15%? Or should I think, "I still make in a month what they make in a year?" Or should I compare myself to my Chinese lawyer friend in Beijing who pulls down 100,000 Amercian a year? Or should I compare myself to the the Henan farmer who comes into town at night selling "shao bing/jia cai bing" sandwiches at night for one ot two yuan, working the whole night to make maybe ten or twenty yuan?
Seriously, this question as how I should view my wages often confuses me.
Had a prof once who said, "I could give you all a job making 100,000 a year, and you would be unhappy in a month"
"No way!" we said.
The prof replied, "what if after I hire you, I hired 30 new students, same job, for 250,000 a year"
Compared to how we would feel if the new students just made 70,000 a year?
Human nature sometimes is pathetic!
I wanted to make this into some kind of nifty poll question, but I guess my genius doesn't rise to that level |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Pay rises by 16% for State sector workers |
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arioch36 wrote: |
Should I ask why my wages don't rise by 15%? |
You are not Chinese. |
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11:59

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 632 Location: Hong Kong: The 'Pearl of the Orient'
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Pay rises by 16% for State sector workers |
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arioch36 wrote: |
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-04/29/content_579968.htm
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The average income for people working in the State sector rose by 16 per cent year on year to reach 5,000 yuan (US$630) for the first quarter of the year. |
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How should one interpret this exactly? Does this mean that the average income for such people was 5,000 RMB a month for the first quarter, or that their total income for that 3-month period was 5,000 RMB (i.e., circa 1,666 RMB a month)? Either way, how does this account for the fact that most if not all employees of the 'State Sector' who I met invariably seem to be able to afford to have a daughter (or two) living and studying in Canada, Australia, or the US?
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Many Chinese teachers got a pay raise this year at the universities including admin and support staff my wife got a 12% raise in Jan with a possible new one coming in December.
In Beijing, many Chinese teachers make the same as FT's if you are looking at the 4000-5000 rmb levels.
Don't be fooled into thinking they only make 500 RMB a month while you earn 5000.
They get extra benefits that none of the FT's get.
It is taboo for a Chinese teacher to tell you exactly what they earn. Ask one, and look at their eyes to see if tyhey are trying to dodge the question. Most are told to discuss salary levels with foreigners in grounds for dismisal.
You almost need to marry one to get the real statistics for wages.
Those 800 RMB salaries are for the teachers in mud-huts in XinJiang province. The modern cities that employ FT's, the Chinese salaries are not too far off and increasing due to the recent inflation rates.
I know FT salaries will not increase, they are actually going down. |
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Anda

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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My experience is that if you ask them outright then the figure they will give you will be about two thirds of what they get.
At my college wages start for a first year teacher at 700 a month for a young first year teacher. An old teacher can earn up to just a little under 4,000 a month. Management I don't know. But a head English teacher with a few extra hours cane get about 3,000 plus a bit of side teaching etc.
Us, well there is a whole world out there go for it! I just happen to be better off here than I would be back home in relation to hours, conditions and spending power. Saving power no but if I wanted to save big time I would be back in South Korea.
One of my friends who has a college degree and three years elementary English teaching under his belt has just started on 1,500 a month and has to support a wife and baby on that.
We know pretty much what we are going to get paid before we arrive. Not much point complaining once we are here. I came with an open return ticket and I haven't used it! Oh, Singapore Airlines let me extend the ticket for a second year at no cost! |
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Brian Caulfield
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 1247 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: |
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The Chinese tell me that it is not your disclosed salary that matters , but your hidden salary that counts . |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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an interesting point Brian
some companies employs aren't allowed to disclose their salaries anywhere (from what i know)
speaking of schools/teachers, some FTs have been told not to disclose their salaries to anyone and in some cases it's a "secret" in a clause of the contract
stats in china are often amusing
peace to the ones that give a raise
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cheers and beers to all FTs in china that've been experiencing all kinda raises themselves
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