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johnnyenglishteacher
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Or we can all laugh at johnnyenglishteacher and the OP for taking to heart what was posted!!! If one gets upset at what some unknown poster on Dave's says, how will they ever survive their boss and people in the country they move to? What will happen when they get frustrated because of cultural differences?
While I don't really have an opinion whether Neveah is an idiot, I do think that he or she may have a difficult time dealing with cultural differences when he or she cannot even take a few jabs by some stranger on Dave's!!![/quote]
I didn't take your words to heart. I just don't think that people should insult others for no good reason, whether it's on a Net forum or face to face. |
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neveah
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| Well, I am surprised that this topic is now 4 pages long! Once again, my comments are not intended to hurt people that were trying to help me. I was talking about the hypocritical and self-righteous people that are on this board. Some of them are just trolls that get their jollies by insulting other people. |
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poro
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| I've heard other teachers here mention 20 euro per hour but that could merely be hearsay |
Sounds about right to me, Shaman. Even if you were working without a teaching qualification and were at the bottom of the pay scale, you would still be getting more than �20 per hour at a Finnish community college - all the ones I know, anyway, and I don't think Sweden is very different. |
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philbags
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, after 4 pages somebody actually has somethng positive to say; i thought you guys were just going to wave your swords about forever.
I dont see whats so silly about this post, information on nordic countries is a little thin. some friends of mine worked in Norway and they were straight up TEFLers with degrees. They weren't sayng that it was INCREDIBLY difficult to find work.
What about Finland then? are you saying there are employment possibilities there? |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| My husband wants to move to Finland, because it's a first world country, good healthcare and education system. I'm trying to convince him that that's nice, but it would be almost impossible to get a job there. Still some people can dream. |
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GF
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Him and half the world. Why not Switzerland? What is his plan? Social welfare? He needs a nice hot cup of reality (you come across as level-headed and realistic). Eastern Europe, Latin America and some parts of Asia are your best bets. |
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philbags
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Not everyone is looking for the same thing, and I can Identify with natureG's husband wanting to work in a first world country - I've been around Asia for quite a while now ,and it can wear a little thin.
Actually I think maybe it was denmark that my friends were working.
Are all of these places; Sweden/Norway/Denmark/Finland on a par in terms of cost of living?
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Nutmegger
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, neveah. But quite a lot of the negativity is because it really is difficult to impossible to land jobs in Scandinavia. And people do ask the question pretty frequently.
Quite honestly, I have ten years of experience in teaching ESL/EFL, a BEd. (no PGCE), and an MA in TESL/TEFL and I can't find a job in Scandinavia. Your high school language arts certification probably won't help much.
It's like working legally in the EU without an EU passport. Maybe one person in a thousand finds a way to pull it off.
We have to give general advice on this forum. It's impossible to say that you (specifically) could never find a job in Scandinavia. It's just that the chances really are nearly nil - you'd have to find some special situation that no one here could predict, based on our general knowledge of the job market in the Nordic countries. |
I don't think that the chap even knows about work restrictions for non EU-ers in Europe and I think that is where his questions should have started... |
Norway isn't in the EU. |
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poro
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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What about Finland then? are you saying there are employment possibilities there? |
Sure there are, but they don't advertise internationally very often, so you have to know where to look.
After all, most jobs of any kind are only advertised locally, and just because we don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there.
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poro
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| philbags wrote: |
Are all of these places; Sweden/Norway/Denmark/Finland on a par in terms of cost of living?
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Norway is noticeably more expensive, unless you're earning a Norwegian wage. Otherwise, FI/DK/SE are more or less the same in terms of cost of living, and are not too different from the UK or Germany in many respects.
If you're interested in details, a good way of finding them out is to look up the national online stats offices - they all have links in English, so far as I remember, and all have lists of typical prices. |
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scot47
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| Believe me, Norway does not need to import teachers of English ! I suspect effective demand in other Scandinavian countries is also low. |
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poro
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Believe me, Norway does not need to import teachers of English. |
I'd go along with that.
But it doesn't mean there are no jobs for a person who's set his heart on going there. After all, they have lots of schools and still need teachers for all of them, even if they don't recruit outside the respective country. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| I am sure that they are not easy to get but there may be jobs teaching English to recent immigrants in those countries. |
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naturegirl321
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| What would be considered a decent wage for an EFL teacher in Finland? |
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poro
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| What would be considered a decent wage for an EFL teacher in Finland? |
One can live (modestly) and save on �1.500 gross per month.
It's certainly possible to live on less, but over a prolonged period it can be a strain.
Anything more than that is a plus |
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