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lall



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Smoking Reply with quote

I've noticed that quite a few Omanis (males) are inveterate smokers, despite the government's best efforts to discourage smoking.

A large number of Egyptians are heavy smokers, too. I've seen a considerable number of female smokers in Egypt, both middle-aged & young (and that does not include the female "sheesha/hookah" smokers).

I've also heard that smoking is common in the rest of the Arab world. In contrast, India, despite its huge population, has a low percentage of smokers.

Any opinions, please?


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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salary level.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As some examples, Arabs, Chinese, and Turks have a horribly high percentage of smokers among the adult male population, probably around 50%.

I don't know what the reason is. Probably tradition. In places where in the old times various types of smoking took place, these days cigarette smoking is at a high level in those places. That's my hypothesis.
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lall



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Genetics Reply with quote

I wonder whether some races are genetically pre-disposed towards certain behaviour. I know that this may sound awfully racist. I offer my apologies upfront. It isn't my intention to offend anybody. Just testing my theories.

Btw, SJ, I didn't quite understand as to what you meant by "salary level".
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps... or is just advertising, fashion, and tradition added to a dangerous and addictive substance?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Btw, SJ, I didn't quite understand as to what you meant by "salary level".
Cigarettes cost money. Omanis earn more than Indians.
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lall



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Tobacco in India Reply with quote

Surely, Omanis earn more than Indians.

However, the cost of tobacco, in all its myriad forms (and believe me, it's available in all its avatars - cigarettes, "beedis, bidis or biris", cigars, snuff, chewing tobacco-both chemically-processed or the local smoke-dried variety, etc.,) in India is very, very low.

The cost factor would not, IMHO, deter any Indian from using tobacco.

Yet, India has a low section of the overall users of tobacco, though the number of tobacco chewers and smokers are nearly equal.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When people buy cigarettes in Oman they buy a pack. In Sri Lanka, which is still richer than India, they buy one or two individual cigarettes.
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lall



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Cigarettes by the pack Reply with quote

Exactly my point! SJ.

It's possible to buy a cigarette or two in India (or in Sri Lanka) instead of purchasing the entire pack.

That increases the availability and the increased availability should logically transalate into a higher incidence of smoking.

However, this is not so in India. I wonder why!

By the way, what's the incidence of tobacco use in Sri Lanka?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Smoking Reply with quote

Here in the UAE the government have stopped people smoking in government buildings, banks etc.
The malls still stink of stale smoke and all the restaurants allow smoking.
As I always say, having a smoking area in a restaurant is like having a pissing section in a swimming pool.


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lall



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Smoking Reply with quote

Gauguin wrote:
As I always say, having a smoking area in a restaurant is like having a pissing section in a swimming pool. Gauguin


Good one! Never heard that one before.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, lall, you'd never wondered why the French for 'swimming pool' is 'piscine' - or the Spanish -'piscina'?! Laughing Or - what does a swimming pool have in common with 'psychology'?

Returning to the topic - via a tenous link - my Indian swimming instructor asked me the other day if I would ever light up a cigarette in front of my parents. I wasn't aware of the relevance of this question, (as I rarely smoke while I'm swimming in any event), until I saw that a young Omani man had just lit up directly in front of his mother, who was sitting poolside. The Indian was clearly shocked by this behaviour and viewed it as extremely direspectful towards the mother. Different cultures and different traditions!

The Ramadan constraints on smoking must be tough for heavy smokers to comply with.
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lall



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Lighting up. Reply with quote

You're right. Indians do have different notions about smoking. For example, while it may be acceptable for a young Indian male to have a drink (alcoholic) in the presence of his parents or older relatives, at a party or at a family get-together, he's always expected to duck outside for a smoke.
It's funny, though, that chewing of tobacco is acceptable in the presence of elders, in India.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geronimo wrote:
Returning to the topic - via a tenous link - my Indian swimming instructor asked me the other day if I would ever light up a cigarette in front of my parents. I wasn't aware of the relevance of this question, (as I rarely smoke while I'm swimming in any event), until I saw that a young Omani man had just lit up directly in front of his mother, who was sitting poolside. The Indian was clearly shocked by this behaviour and viewed it as extremely direspectful towards the mother. Different cultures and different traditions!

The Ramadan constraints on smoking must be tough for heavy smokers to comply with.


I think the reason why some indians do not smoke in front of their families, or do not smoke at all, is that intoxicants, including alcohol, and smoking are forbidden in Orthodox Hindus. And that fire is a sacred 'thing' for them.

In the Arab culture, you will find that a man can smoke in front of his mother, but cannot do it in front of his father or elder brothers, I think it is a cultural thing!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband is Egyptian and he won't smoke in front of his parents, either. His habit is more or less unacknowledged, but he, at the age of 34, feels it would be disrespectful to his father if he did. Like 007, it's more 'hidden' from dear old dad.
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