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Who Pays More: JET or the Big Eikai Schools?
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dodgee



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that the OP should keep in mind is that Nagoya has no rental subsidies period and the accomodation prices there are almost at Tokyo levels. At one stage Nagoya BOE Jets were getting 4.5 man more in salary a month but I believe this is no longer the case. Could be wrong though as I have no JET contacts there now.

Also a lot of JETS here are not so aware of what Eikaiwa Teachers can earn. In my town in the highest paid foreigner worked for GEOS and got lots of overtime pay(at a lucrative rate) he also had more time to access the (lucrative) private housewife market as he was free most week mornings as he started at 1 pm. Most months he cleared 65 man. Of course another advantage with the Eikaiwa workers is that they have a great deal more freedom when they can take their holidays and thus get cheaper flights. It used to annoy me a little that when I went home in Summer for example my ticket home would have cost 40% more than his ticket because he was holidaying in non-peak travel season.
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Lyrajean



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: going to Okinawa

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: JET, hands down winner Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
Stillnosheep and Kilgore or so down on JET.

A year on JET is an cushy scholarship which gets you into Japanese life. The pay is great, the support is good (if a little spotty - few ALTs running workshops are ESL or EFL professionals), the rent is subsidized (I paid Y10,000 a month and the bills were included!) and the airfare to and from is paid. Overall, it's a really good way to come to Japan.


Just keep in mind if you go with JET, that perks like rent subsidies and stuff seem to be on the way out. It is nice if you get them but do not count on it. I pay market rent in Okinawa + all my bills + all startup costs (deposit, key money, etc.) and luckilly it is in a low-rent area. On the other hand I know a JET in the Nago area who gets a whole house for himself for 3000 a month. Also most people with JET are placed in the inaka and you will probabaly need a car, unlike your eikaiwa friends who live in downtown urban areas so factor that into your monthly expense budget!
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markle



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgee wrote:
Also a lot of JETS here are not so aware of what Eikaiwa Teachers can earn.


The operative word being can. The situation describe, while I don't doubt is true, it is hardly representative of what a first year just arrived eikaiwa teacher can expect. For just stepping off the boat as the OP is planning then it is hard to beat JET. After a couple years in the trenches well that's another story.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about greater freedom to take vacations in eikaiwa. They are a business. In your first 6 months, technically you don't get paid time off. It's only after that the employer is legally obligated to give you any. Most people I know had their vacations at those same peak periods: Obon, Golden Week, and between Christmans and New Year's.

I agree with markle about the 65-man figure (650,000 yen/month). Newbies don't usually make more than minimum standard salaries, I believe, simply because they don't know their way around the system.

Also, the word "can" is indeed important. Many eikaiwa teachers are here to party, not make money to sock away in a bank, so they spend it as fast as they make it, and they really don't have much of a sense of responsibility to the employer. I'm not saying most, but many are like that. So, you can make a lot if you are willing to work overtime and take on extra teaching, but who is to say who would like to do that sort of thing right after they start teaching EFL, something that is usually a totally new experience and in a foreign land where the call of sightseeing and other things often draws people more than money?
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Dipso



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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Location: England

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgee wrote:
Of course another advantage with the Eikaiwa workers is that they have a great deal more freedom when they can take their holidays and thus get cheaper flights. It used to annoy me a little that when I went home in Summer for example my ticket home would have cost 40% more than his ticket because he was holidaying in non-peak travel season.


This doesn't apply to Aeon, by the way. Aeon's holidays are Golden Week, Obon and New Year, plus five extra days which can be difficult to take.
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flyer



Joined: 16 May 2003
Posts: 539
Location: Sapporo Japan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Judging from blogs I have read about the JET program, you have to devote a lot more of your energy...what price freedom?


you must be joking!

JET is far more relaxing than working in eikaiwa (in general) believe me I have done both
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