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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
International schools usually require accredited teachers, meaning you have to be licensed (and experienced) in some core subject in your home country.


...yes, i'm halfway certified. now, in the U.S., there are many "fast-track" certification programs, and you can get certified in 1 yr, or even 1 summer, then continue studying while you teach. the U.S., seeing that there needs to be major emphasis on education / education reform is really pushing to get more teachers / people certified...
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mdk



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question was raised about where you could go to find a non-EU country where it would be easy to work. Assuming you struck out in Spain.

Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia come to my immediate mind. I would leave Montenegro for last, but the other two are very pleasant and modern places that would almost certainly welcome a competent ESL teacher.
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...yes, i realize my last post was a little "off-topic". but not really. i've always felt the best way to work in Europe (since the EU), is to get certified in the US in 2 years. then, you have so many more "legal" options at International schools, not to mention wages.

also, when you come home, you can jump right in, and start teaching again. who is going to look at your resume when you come home, when it says??:

ILC Institute Madrid
EnglishWorld Barcelona - 6 months
SpeakFAST Valencia 1 year
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QatarChic



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdk wrote:
Perhaps it is a personal choice. I have no intention of going over there and trying to live as an illegal. People who consider that a self respecting thing to do - what can I say? The guy who stool my bag in el raval doubtless considers himself a perfectly self respecting pick pocket.

Are ESL teachers so pathetic that they cannot get together the cash to go in the front door, but have to, instead, go in on the sneak? Your character is your fate.

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Well said. I couldn't agree more.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is 2000 Euros plus free housing decent for Madrid?
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MO39



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more than decent; it's great! Have you been offered such a well-paying position?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've applied. I just sent my CV. Fingers crossed.
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...is that an international school?? or business classes??

sounds good Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say they're an international school. But I'm not sure, since they only require you to be a native speaker to get the job. Haven't heard anything back from them yet.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I passed the first part of the selection with the school. I had to send dips, certs, my BA and passport, then I'll have an interview. If I pass, I'll be on my way to Spain within a month.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...good, let me know how it works out ...Peru must be getting a little old now after 5 years...you'll probably find the Espanolas tienen un poco mas de interes....
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johninmaine wrote:
...good, let me know how it works out ...Peru must be getting a little old now after 5 years...you'll probably find the Espanolas tienen un poco mas de interes....


Three years, but yes, I need a change.
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...what city is the school in??
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johninmaine wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
International schools usually require accredited teachers, meaning you have to be licensed (and experienced) in some core subject in your home country.

...yes, i'm halfway certified. now, in the U.S., there are many "fast-track" certification programs, and you can get certified in 1 yr, or even 1 summer, then continue studying while you teach. the U.S., seeing that there needs to be major emphasis on education / education reform is really pushing to get more teachers / people certified...


I'm certified. Kind of. I mean I'm eligible to teach in public schools. All I had to do was send my transcripts and I can teach from preschool to grade 3. I took a written and speaking English test and now I can teach K to 12 ESL. Took a Praxis Spanish test and a Speaking test for Spanish and now I can teach K to 12 Spanish.

Sounds unreal? Look at NJ. It's the only state that allows you to do that. Trust me, I looked Smile

HOwever, I don't have a license, because I've never taught in the US. Yet, I work at a bilingual school here in Peru, but doubt I would be allowed to work at the international schools here, although I have interviewed at two of them, they just don't appeal to me. I don't want to live in that bubble.

By the way, it's in Madrid. Not really my top choice, but it's practical, because it's close to the embassies and I still have lots of trips to make to the Romania one Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johninmaine wrote:
also, when you come home, you can jump right in, and start teaching again. who is going to look at your resume when you come home, when it says??:
ILC Institute Madrid
EnglishWorld Barcelona - 6 months
SpeakFAST Valencia 1 year


I guess you could always keep the never-go-home option open. I can't imagine going back now. But I suppose that could all change in the future, but doubt I could afford it. And besides, we want to buy an apartment here. Buying property in the USA means loans, my parents still have 15 years left on their mortgage Shocked
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