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tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

Actually Burdik, l agree with you on that point. Eating once a day doesn't bother me. However, not being able to drink water all day drives me nuts. I fasted while travelling around Syria during Ramazan. Though, l must say that l drank water. I was a traveller. Thus, l deemed it came under the travelling, so don't have to fast properly clause of Ramazan.

Laura777 · Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 101 Location: Istanbul Turkey

Regarding sports and 'slimming regimes' is that yes its difficult to keep working out because cant drink water. But can still do yoga and weights but not intensely.

Also sahur is a good idea as we are fasting everyday and the morning breakfast can be a good fuel to get you through the day as you need energy to work because we must work and continue normal life.

If one didnt have sahur then you would basically be fasting from the night before to the next night iftar meal. That would not be healthy in the long term.

Religious reasons kept out.

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hobo · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 91

I really don't see what's so disrespectful about saying the pubs are less crowded. They are.

burdik · Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 33 Location: izmir

Golightly · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:25 am Post subject:

hobo · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 91

I don't see anything disrespectful about eating, drinking or smoking at lunchtime. I don't think a restaurant is particularly good place to hang out if you fasting anyway.

misterkodak · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:12 am Post subject:

I especially enjoy the Iftar Sofrasi. Rakii is is definitely good after a long day of not eating anything. Nothing Says Ramadan like a liter of Efes.

burdik · Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 33 Location: izmir

No I dont think eating in ramazan is disrespectul. I think forcing people not to eat or closing down restaurants is disrespectful. I dont fast and if I feel like drinking I drink during ramazan. But when you say -in a thread about ramazan- 'I like eating doner during lunch time munching', -followed by- 'with raki and cigarettes' (since many muslims consider drinking as a sin), people might tend to get it disrespectful I think.

ps. I am not saying I am offended by the way. Just trying to see mindweave's point.

justme · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul

hobo · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 91

I really don't see anything disrespectful about directly insulting someone's culture and beliefs.

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

I stopped off in a birahane on the way home for a little refreshment and read the paper. (Kosem in sisli) It was packed. All the old boys having a beer at 3 in the afternoon. Discussing idaa and betting on the horses. Normal.

Am I respectful of the culture? Yes. My neighbour is fairly religious(she sits in the garden all day long reading the koran) I spoke to her daughter about having a flat warming. She suggested waiting until after Ramadan. I will..... even though the boys are giving me a hard time about it.

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

somnambulist · Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 30

Hobo, could you actually define to us what you feel you mean with the expression "insult". My point is that even the Danish and Swedish cartoonists would not be so insensitive as to suppose that their illustrations were in no way disrespectful of islamic sensitivities, though perhaps not intentionally so. It seems a flat contradiction in terms, to admit consciously voicing an insult, yet to fail to acknowledge the concommitant disrespect. In short, insult and disrespect go hand in hand. How can anybody not realise this? Would you not feel a conscious disrespect to yourself, Hobo, if I were to insult your culture? Or perhaps from your pseudonym, we are to understand that you actually have no culture, or at least only a rudimentary and uncultivated understanding of it, ie as a target for cheap jokes.

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

I think that Hobo may have been joking, Somnambulist.

On the topic of cartoons, what are everyone's views on the recent batch of cartoons from Sweden? The cartoonist, Lars whatever his name is, has a rather large bounty on his head.
I know that we had a rant a while back about the beauty, quality and purpose of art.
It seems to me that the purpose of these cartoons or this trend to pictorially ridicule Mohammed and İslam is to incite hatred, bring fame to the artist(s) and to create instablity and violence which inadvertantly paints muslims as barbarous fundamentalists who have no regard for the freedom of speech or human life......perhaps the last effect is the true point of the cartoons...