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New Nova recruit -- should I go?
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tahoemud



Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: New Nova recruit -- should I go? Reply with quote

I'm also supposed to leave for Japan soon (October 16th).

The Nova group in Boston admitted that they are very much in the dark about when (or how) things will turn around -- and they too suggested I could cancel, or postpone my trip.

Quite a few uncertainties here, you know? Will Nova be able to pay me for my first few months? Will Nova downsize -- or go under? Will it become diffifcult to find work (as an inexperienced teacher) when so many ex-Nova folks are also looking for new jobs.

A friend in Tokyo says I'm worrying too much. He says, "As long as you have your work visa, you're going to be OK." He imagines one could find work within 4-6 weeks.

I have no idea.
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chollimaspeed



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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southofreality



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going to come over with NOVA, treat the situation the same as if you weren't coming with a job in hand. Bring somewhere around ¥500,000 and plan to live frugally until you can get your 1st paycheck from whatever company you end up working for. That may be a long time if you stick with NOVA. At least you'll have a working visa (?).

Actually, since there's a lot of competition for jobs (not everybody's waiting for NOVA to actually close its doors before searching for a new gig) I'd suggest a figure closer to ¥750,000. Of course, if you've got bills to pay back home, you should probably wait until this blows over and the job market settles. Could take 6 months or more if NOVA does completely tank.
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chollimaspeed



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I look at it is that you could end up working for up to six weeks waiting for that first paycheck only to find out it isn't coming. In the meantime you may end up with no place to live, no contacts and a suddenly crowded job market.

NOVA are telling you to reconsider your plans and that should be a big enough red flag in itself. It is a face-saving measure because they are trying to scare away enough people as they can without admitting how deep in the shit they are.

If you take the job then NOVA are going to say, in their defence, that the sitauation was made perfectly clear to you before you even came. I think it is too big a risk to make. Sorry.
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tahoemud



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really appreciate the suggestions! Thanks. I do have around ?750,000,and I have no debt whatsoever here in the States.
I have until next week to make up my mind (commit to the airline reservation, etc). Like everyone, I wish I knew more about their plans to address the cash crises.
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tahoemud



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"The way I look at it is that you could end up working for up to six weeks waiting for that first paycheck only to find out it isn't coming."

Yes, exactly! Serious (and financially draining) possibilty.


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chollimaspeed



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tahoemud wrote:
I really appreciate the suggestions! Thanks. I do have around ?750,000,and I have no debt whatsoever here in the States.
I have until next week to make up my mind (commit to the airline reservation, etc). Like everyone, I wish I knew more about their plans to address the cash crises.


Recently there have been a lot of threads on this forum about NOVA and I don't see many people having much confidence in the place. I think I would feel bad if I recommended you to completely bail if NOVA suddenly got back up on their feet. But I would feel worse if you came here and got completely stiffed. The latter is by far the more likely scenario. I am sure you know about where NOVA gets its money from and how if it can't afford to pay its staff now and is closing branches all over the place then there is next to no chance that it will be able to pay its staff later.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider it a blessing that you aren't here already. If it had been a month earlier, you'd have working for what it seems to be free.

Don't come, look elsewhere.
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Temujin



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately for you, you're not going to be able to come over with Nova. Things are too far gone for that. I'm pretty sure that they aren't taking new recruits anymore. Call and check. Either way, do not come over with Nova.
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mels&johnny



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have been searching desperately for a job in Japan, and finally confirmed an interview with NOVA yesterday. I was so excited and spend pretty much every last dollar I had on airline tickets to get to the interview in San Fran, and guess what? Today I got an email simply stating that "We have been informed by our staff in Japan, that for a variety of reasons, we are to suspend all recruiting for the foreseeable future. If and when we start up recruiting again for teaching contracts, we will send you another email to see if you are interested in rescheduling." Yeah right, NOVA; thanks but no thanks.
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tahoemud



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Thanks for sharing that. I hope you find something.

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Today I got an email simply stating that "We have been informed by our staff in Japan, that for a variety of reasons, we are to suspend all recruiting for the foreseeable future. If and when we start up recruiting again for teaching contracts, we will send you another email to see if you are interested in rescheduling."
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