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mkoqtp



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: school teaching requirements Reply with quote

Hey everyone,


I just spoke to a recruiter earlier today and he informed me that in order to teach in a private high school in Taiwan, I need to be a certified teacher. I was under the impression that the rule only applied to public high schools. Can anyone help confirm that I do indeed need to be a certified teacher in order to teach in a private high school.


Thanks in advance.
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like he's referring to International schools. The do want "real" teachers.

Cat.
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BJ



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All full time positions in Senior high and I think, though I might be wrong, all schools, now require teaching qualifications private or state.
Some religious schools however can get away with it, but i dont think they are allowed the state Uni entrance exams.
To get full time status you must have your qualifications check by the ministry of education reagardless. They will then issue you a little book saying you meet the criteria. It is the same book that native chinese teachers get.
AS far as I am aware this ruling only came in within the last 4 years for all schools. Public schools and colleges have had it much longer, althoug at university you need an MA or higher and not a teaching qualification as such.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would apply for mainstream schools such as elementary, junior high, and senior high schools.

You will hear of people without teaching certificates working in mainstream schools with an ARC, but in those cases you will likely find that the employer named on their ARC is not the actual school that they work at. This means that they are working illegally whether they realize this or not.
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clark.w.griswald wrote:
This would apply for mainstream schools such as elementary, junior high, and senior high schools.


Question: What is the definition of a "mainstream" school?

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Cat
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MomCat wrote:
clark.w.griswald wrote:
This would apply for mainstream schools such as elementary, junior high, and senior high schools.


Question: What is the definition of a "mainstream" school?

Thanks,
Cat


I use the term to describe schools that are part of the compulsory education system i.e. elementary and high schools. This would include government and privately run schools but I don't favor the term private schools for the latter as it could be confused with private training schools. Perhaps not the best term, but hopefully one that helps to seperate things.
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BJ



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AT one stage schools were using a third party (buxiban) to teach students. These teachers are not "mainstream" as they are not paid and authorised by the givernemnt.
These schools normally use these teachers for extra curricular Engliahs training or classroom support of a native teacher.
One of the reasons I said "as far as I am aware" is because there have been several types of schemes put in place. I teach teachers at high schools on occasion, and i have taught a class to help out once, but the class was 'unofficial'
I could not substitute, as i did not have a "school " teaching paper, only a university one:)
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJ wrote:
AT one stage schools were using a third party (buxiban) to teach students. These teachers are not "mainstream" as they are not paid and authorised by the givernemnt.


If you are teaching students in a private premise outside of a school then you are working for a buxiban not a mainstream school regardless of who arranges it. I would only say that someone was teaching in a mainstream school if he or she is physically teaching inside an actual elementary or high school.

In line with what BJ writes above, but in reverse, some mainstream schools will employ foreign teachers and offer them a work permit and ARC through an outside buxiban but the teacher teaches inside the school. THIS IS ILLEGAL. You can only work for the employer stated on your ARC and at their single registered address. Often recruiters will help schools arrange this dodge and therefore teachers need to be wary.
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