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hassan731



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: ITTO - Non native speaker Reply with quote

Hey everyone,

This is my first post on Dave's ESL cafe forum, and I have a lot of questions.
I am a non-native English speaker from Morocco, currently attending college in the US. Actually, an Ivy-league school, which is sweet.
I am contemplating getting a job in the EFL field and I don't wanna start in my home country, it's actually easier for me to get a job abroad than in Morocco.
I'm majoring in Education, which might be a plus. I will also get a TEFL/TESL certificate after I graduate this coming May.
My English is Good ( I don't sound like a foreign student at all, people can hardly believe that I'm from Morocco).
But when it comes to experience, I have 2 semesters as a French TA which is pretty much irrelevant experience.
Well, I started researching Schools that provide TEFL certificates and came across ITTO in Guadalajara. As they guarantee a job upon completion of their program, I contacted them and asked about my chances as I am not a native speaker and they said it's not a problem at all.
As they also ask their students to enter Mexico as tourists, I thought I might have a problem getting a work permit because of my Passport, they assured me it won't be hard to get that as soon as I get a Job offer.
I will certainly not be picky if I get a job offer as I know it will help me build my experience, I'm thinking of going back to Morocco after getting 3 or more years of teaching experience.
But I'm wondering still, will it be worth spending all that money and time to do this?

I wanna be completely sure about this adventure.
Please advise,

Thanks,

Hassan
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As they also ask their students to enter Mexico as tourists, I thought I might have a problem getting a work permit because of my Passport, they assured me it won't be hard to get that as soon as I get a Job offer.


You should check with the Mexican consulate or embassy in Morocco on this...I think it likely you'll have to apply there for a tourist visa before coming over to Mexico, and there may be restrictions on how you obtain work or study here.

Here's a site to start from for visas...

http://www.consulmexny.org/eng/visas_fmt_inm.htm
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hassan731



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply man,

The thing is, it's easier for me to get a tourist visa from the US. so that's not gonna be a problem really.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hassan wrote:
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I thought I might have a problem getting a work permit because of my Passport, they assured me it won't be hard to get that as soon as I get a Job offer.

You say you want to be completely sure, and that is a very wise plan. I�d check this only with a Mexican Embassy, as Guy advised. The people giving you this advice aren't qualified to do so. It�s difficult enough for travel agents to keep up on the constantly changing world of required documentation around the globe.

Here is a link with information at the bottom:

http://www.incosai2007.org.mx/embajadas/txtembvisai.htm

I know a teacher with green card status in the USA and living in the USA permanently (a citizen of an Eastern European country), married to an American and travelling with his American wife to teach here. He received only 30 days on a tourist card upon entry into Mexico and they wouldn't budge. He was instructed to report to Immigration every 30 days thereafter. This was a major hassle for him. It takes quite some time to get a school organized to set you up with an FM3 in many cases. And you can easily land far away from an Immigration office in your new job placement.
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hlamb



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
hassan wrote:
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I thought I might have a problem getting a work permit because of my Passport, they assured me it won't be hard to get that as soon as I get a Job offer.

You say you want to be completely sure, and that is a very wise plan. I�d check this only with a Mexican Embassy, as Guy advised. The people giving you this advice aren't qualified to do so. It�s difficult enough for travel agents to keep up on the constantly changing world of required documentation around the globe.



ITTO doesn't always give the best advice. They told me I wouldn't need to get all my documents legalized because the ITTO certificate would be enough to get a work permit in Mexico. That might be true in Guadalajara but in other states a legalized degree is more important. I had to Fedex all my documents to Ottawa and get a cousin to deal wtih getting them stamped, because I was already here. So please do check with the embassy first.
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reddevil79



Joined: 19 Jul 2004
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Location: Neither here nor there

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Hassan,

I would search the forum and get all the information you can on ITTO before deciding to go with them. They make bold claims but don't always deliver.

Even if you're not too fussed about your first job, still be picky as you don't want to be taken advantage of.

Good luck Very Happy
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please please check with the nearest Mexican Consulate in the US. (they all have webpages and some have toll free phone numbers)

I know that in 2002, Turkish citizens could not be issued a tourist visa for Mexico from inside the US--they had to return to Turkey in order to be issued a visa. I would not be surprised if there were similiar restrictions for other countries in the region. It seems it was part of some deal Mexico made with the US in hope of getting the temporary worker visas for Mexicans set up--which fell through. Sad We could all speculate about many things, only the Mexican government can tell you something approaching the truth.
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hassan731



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys for all your info. I really appreciate it...
I don't think I will have a problem getting a tourist visa from here.. I checked with the consulate in Detroit coz it's the closest one to where I live - Columbus, OH.
About ITTO, if it does not deliver as you say, are there any other alternatives? taking into consideration that I have no Experience and not even a native speaker?

Thanks
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reddevil79



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There a few other options in Mexico, including some CELTA courses. I think there some courses in the Playa del Carmen and Chiapas, but if you do a search on this forum, you will no doubt get information you need.
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