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anyway



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Families with Children ?? Reply with quote

I'm thinking of relocating to Oman in the near future. We're a family of four with two sons, 3 years and 5 months. I would appreciate hearing comments from anybody with kids...

How much does your monthly food bill run?
Have you had much experience with the medical facilities?
How about chances for socialization/playmates, etc.?

Any and all comments much appreciated. Toodles...
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lall



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Where in Oman? Reply with quote

You didn't mention your preferred destination in Oman. With a child that's just 5 months old, Muscat should be your choice. Remember, healthcare, though of fairly high standards in Oman, is not so forthcoming to foreigners (especially if one is other than white-skinned). The private hospitals are very expensive and are almost always very busy.

From the sound of your post, it appears that you're white. I'm guessing, though. If you're white, a visit to any of the restaurants/clubs/gyms at the higher end of the scale will put you in contact with virtually the entire white population of Muscat.

Best of luck, Lall
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: white and black Reply with quote

lall wrote:
From the sound of your post, it appears that you're white. I'm guessing, though.

I wonder if Lall can tell from the �sound� of my post if I am a black or a white person?
What�s the trick?
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lall



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: "Sound of mail" Reply with quote

I'd half expected a reply like this and had debated as to whether to enclose the word, "sound" within quotation marks.

All the same, by white, I meant a native English speaker. One can generally tell, from the style of writing, use of the ellipsis (...), lack of major errors in spelling, syntax & grammar, etc., that the originator of the post's a native English speaker.
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ETG



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Families with Children ?? Reply with quote

Hmmm, interesting, in my country native English speakers come in all shades from black to lack of pigment so I am interested to know where in the world native English speakers are only white?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK... let's get back to the questions rather than discuss stereotypes.

Anyway...

It is hard to give you much information without knowing what your work will be.

In general, Oman is very kid-friendly.

Health care is best in Muscat, especially if you only speak English.

Food costs are not terribly high unless you purchase all expensive imported pre-packed stuff. If you cook at home with fresh ingredients, food costs would probably be less than the US. (no idea where you are coming from)

VS
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
(no idea where you are coming from)
VS

If I am not wrong, and according to Lall �sound of post� theory and to my 7th sense, the OP is from the land of Uncle Sam and she does speak Spanish very well. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Sense Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity, 007, what's your sixth sense?
Oman is definitely child-friendly, but I wouldn't say "kid-friendly"; the knives are being sharpened in readiness for the Eid celebrations and a lot of unfortunate kids will shortly meet their maker!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: Sense Reply with quote

grahamb wrote:
Just out of curiosity, 007, what's your sixth sense?
To be able to see and talk to the dead.

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knives are being sharpened in readiness for the Eid celebrations and a lot of unfortunate kids will shortly meet their maker!

Why do you think that they are unfortunate?
Just keep them out of sight when the sheeps are slaughtered.
And then, I think the fortunate kids will enjoy the BBQ in the Sultan Qaboos Muntazah.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Kids Reply with quote

Kids, as in kid of a goat.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Kids' stuff Reply with quote

I thought communicating with the dead was haram.
Thanks, lall, for enriching 007's vocabulary. You have made him a wiser man!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really shocked to read such rubbish from people who are supposed to be educators.

To actually imply that � white people � are the only native speakers of English !!!

All the same, by white, I meant a native English speaker. One can generally tell, from the style of writing, use of the ellipsis (...), lack of major errors in spelling, syntax & grammar, etc., that the originator of the post's a native English speaker.
Hence, white !!

What planet do you live on lall ? I am flabbergasted..

Sorry vd, I believe the point is important enough to be insisted on..

Pray, do not try to figure out where I come from either�just by analyzing the way I �sound� ..I am sure you will fail miserably Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be new here clifford... this discussion has been done here endlessly for the last 10 years.

Lall was pointing out - albeit clumsily - the obvious fact that in the ME, as in much of the world, employers and students too often expect their English teachers to be native speakers and have a white face. Sad, but a fact of life.

It is also a sad fact that people with 'white' faces are treated differently in these countries. To pretend otherwise will leave one disillusioned.

VS
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Clifford



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am indeed new to this forum.

Thank you vd for the explanation.

Nevertheless, the point was stated very "clumsily". Lall did not speak of perceptions in the ME but rather about HIS perception of what he conceives to be a natural way of thinking about native speakers.
He is entitled to his views. Nonetheless, he should not state them as if they are "common knowledge" or accepted by everyone else.

The nuance did not come through. I would be very careful about the way things are stated, Lall. More so, from a native speaker with an obvious command of the English language Wink

Just shows that we can never command a language enough!! we are not infallible.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clifford wrote:
Just shows that we can never command a language enough!! we are not infallible.

Indeed, Mr Clifford, you are right, the majority of people forget that they are not perfect, and they also can make mistakes.
And they laugh at my English because I am not a native speaker, but definitely I am a white person!
So, in conclusion, the theory of �sound of post� of Lall is invalid in this context.
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