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tbawaken
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: A tough choice. |
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So I just got the actual job offer from Nova and have 2 choices. Now granted either way I'm off on interesting international mischief...but what would you do???
option A- Take the job with Nova and hope they can get their s#!* toghether.
ORRRR
option B- Live with relatives in Thailand and get my TEFL certificate, and then hope I get a job on my own. (if you feel up to letting me know how feasible getting said job sounds that would be swell of ya) |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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What's your timeline/rush?
What are your goals for a teaching career/job? (other than "international mischief") |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Posts: 1316
Location: Out of Japan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: Re: A tough choice. |
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| tbawaken wrote: |
option A- Take the job with Nova and hope they can get their s#!* toghether.
option B- Live with relatives in Thailand and get my TEFL certificate, and then hope I get a job on my own. (if you feel up to letting me know how feasible getting said job sounds that would be swell of ya) |
option B
If and/or when Nova get their sh it together it will still be that - sh it (and unstable to boot).
Go to Thailand, get the Tefl cert (bless your initial students with a teacher that has a some inkling of what he's are doing), maybe get a bit of experience locally (if you can survive the ins and outs of ESL in Thailand, Japan will be a breeze), get the miscief impulse out of your system and come to Japan and make some real money for a few years before you move on. |
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sallycat
Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 303
Location: behind you. BOO!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| accepting a job with nova would be incredibly unwise right now. |
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Mahik
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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Hey, I have family in Thailand. Where are you from?
Oh, and I would go for any option besides "work for Nova". Just personal preference. |
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chollimaspeed
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| I don't get it. What sort of different advice do you expect on this thread to the Awww Crap! thread? Are you still actually considering NOVA? Haven't you read the "NOVA news sources" thread? |
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groothewanderer
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Option A. Also say, "Hello" to Hoser! |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Tough choice? Nova just took money for rent from their employees, didn't actually pay the rent with it, and refuse to comment now that those employees have been served with eviction notices.
hmmmm... live on the streets in Japan when winter is coming up, or live with family while getting training in a warm country that happens to also be one of the most popular tourist areas in the world- in fact it's probably the number one choice of destination for people in Japan to go to for their winter breaks.
That IS a tough choice!  |
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seastarr
Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| I would say Nova is a serious No at the moment. Even if you get here with Nova and they collapse some time after, you are going to be one in a sea of thousands of ESL teachers looking for work, many of them with years of experience and training on you. If you can go to Thailand and get some certification, that would be a great idea...Waiting out the job situation in Japan for the next year would probably be a good plan..see what becomes of the Nova situation. There are some great facebook groups regarding the subject of Nova going belly up that will provide you with pretty regular info on the situation. Good luck and just keep in mind that Japan is worth the wait if it means having a great experience there, because it is a fantastic place! |
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tbawaken
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: Thanks everyone |
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Helpful insight and after much thought...Thailand it is! Then no matter what the certificae will get me more $ in the long run.
Thanks again,
Tim |
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Chris21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Why are these your only two options?
Clearly, Nova is not a good idea. And personally, Thailand is a great place to visit but not so great for working. BTW - a Thai TEFL certificate doesn't count for much in a lot of places. I don't think it counts for anything in Japan.
Why not look for another job in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, or even China? |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| BTW - a Thai TEFL certificate doesn't count for much in a lot of places. |
Based on what information? Define a lot of places. Do you mean that say a CELTA obtained in Thailand is less recognizable than one from anywhere else?
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| I don't think it counts for anything in Japan. |
Depends on what you mean, you don't need one to get a visa or to get into the JET program but the fact that you have one distiguishes you from the other applicants out there that have none. Given the Nova situation that is a lot of people. Anyhow as I said, your initial students will thank you. |
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Chris21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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| Fair enough. In the past, I don't think having TEFL certification has necessarily been an asset in finding a job - it was easy enough getting a job without any experience or TEFL certification. But as you said, the Nova situation may have changed things. |
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tbawaken
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: interesting point |
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The school I would be obtaining my TEFL certificate from said that it is an intenationally recognized certificate and it had some fancy serial number behind it. First off, is there some kind of credential I should look for then that would make it internationally recognized? Secondly, my thinking on the matter was that it would certainly help in obtaining jobs if not higher paying ones. I know that even in Nova there is a differential for certified teachers as opposed to us greenhorns.
Is my info/thinking correct as far as you know?
Thoughts, opinions, facts, concerns, feelings???
Muchas gracias! |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: interesting point |
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| tbawaken wrote: |
The school I would be obtaining my TEFL certificate from said that it is an intenationally recognized certificate and it had some fancy serial number behind it. First off, is there some kind of credential I should look for then that would make it internationally recognized? Secondly, my thinking on the matter was that it would certainly help in obtaining jobs if not higher paying ones. I know that even in Nova there is a differential for certified teachers as opposed to us greenhorns.
Is my info/thinking correct as far as you know?
Thoughts, opinions, facts, concerns, feelings???
Muchas gracias! |
CELTA is the only way to go, or CELTYL if you want to teach young people. Most of the other TEFL certificates lack universal recognition, especially the ones from TEFL diploma mills online. |
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