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InTime



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: SantaMariaInternationalSchool/MirafloresDeLaSierraMadrid? Reply with quote

Any INFO?
Thnx
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InTime



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading the valuable responses to NatureGirls inquiries, I wanted to PM folks. But that function is now down.

So...I'm posting this, asking for feedback.

Quote:
6th October 2007.

<<<Dear Applicant,>>>


My NAME is not mentioned. It could seem that this is a Mass Mailing.


Quote:
After the meeting of Board of Directors, Santa Maria International school, the school principal and the head of Administration, it was concluded that the applicants who successfully meet our requirements on the standard of the teachers needed to teach in our school this season be informed through this letter.


I am very delighted to inform you that <<your name was among the lucky teachers whom application was granted. >>


This sounds like a Spam letter informing me I won the Euro-Lottery.

Quote:
<<We hope you are ready and prepared to join us>> towards the end of this month when all our foreign teachers must report for duty.


How can I be ready and prepared...when I have not yet received any INFO about the Proposed Position?
===========================================

They have a nice Website.
They haven't asked for any money.
I wrote them a letter, with my comments as Above.
If they are OK, they need to be less...and more...

Any INFO?

Thnx folks
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melvaughn



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just received an e-mail from this particular school in Madrid after they saw my profile on seriousteachers.com.
I haven't bothered to reply since it seemed impersonal. I figured it was a mass e-mail they randomly send out to people. Here's the e-mail:

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Dear Applicant,

Santa Maria International school is situated at, Miraflores De La Sierra , Madrid. Miraflores De La Sierra is a little town about 49 kilometres from Capital city Madrid.
Each year, we hire the services of more than 8 international teachers to teach in our international language department. Our relationship with the past and present teachers is a unique one. Every teacher who has taught in our school always has a very good memory of the time he or she had spent with us. The cooperation between the teachers /staff and the students is something to write home about.
The school is well equipped with standard classrooms, sports facilities, theatre, music room, libraries and computer labs etc.
For the year 2007/2008, (Oct. 2007 to July 11th 2008) Santa Maria International School , requires English teachers to join our teaching staffs on a one academic period contract. This contract includes benefits to the teachers. (Well equipped single bedroom, free laundry, free access to the school internet, free transport within the province of Madrid, medical insurance, air ticket(s) to and fro from your country. etc) The school authority is to process a non European applicant his or her Visa/work permit. Our salary is unique and this shall be discussed when we receive your application.
Qualification:
B.E. or B.A./Diploma, High school certificate (ESL or
TESOL Certification, Teaching experience (not compulsory)

If you wish to be part of our teaching family this academic season, send your letter of interest, resume with recent photo to the Head of administration by fax or e-mail scanning.

Contact:Hernando Juanito.
Santa Maria International School.
e-mail: [email protected]
Calle de la cumbre SN
Miraflores De La Sierra , Madrid 28792
Spain.
Fax: +34-911 518 412.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. European schools never pay for flights.
2. They CAN'T get you a work permit if you are a non-EU citizen. It's a federal law in Spain, along with some of the other 'old' EU member countries.
3. The qualifications required are ENTRY-LEVEL only. There are literally thousands of teachers with these quals available in Spain at this red hot moment.

It's an OBVIOUS scam.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better amend the 'never.' Not private language schools, not for teachers with basic qualifications.

International schools, government-sponsored schools, military-related schools, for teachers with advanced quals and experience, maybe sometimes.
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....the guy's name even sounds "made-up"....not many last names end in Juanito?? my wife's Spanish, haven't seen that before ---
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bejarano



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sanmariais.org/home

Shocked
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely a SCAM. Avoid it and tell friends.
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bejarano



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly is, no pictures of the school nor any pages in Spanish which is really strange.
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....the website is almost laughable....40 nationalities and only 2 upcoming events in the next 2 months??

read the list of directors, pretty funny names also...

...sounds strange, but it seems this is coming from someone with a fairly high level of English, ...also, that they mention the UK Exams, maybe this is UK based??

btw-- there are some spelling errors on their website also--
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booty



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
1. European schools never pay for flights.
2. They CAN'T get you a work permit if you are a non-EU citizen. It's a federal law in Spain, along with some of the other 'old' EU member countries.
3. The qualifications required are ENTRY-LEVEL only. There are literally thousands of teachers with these quals available in Spain at this red hot moment.

It's an OBVIOUS scam.


Some shcools in Europe DO PAY for flights. When I taught in Poland, Lithuania and Slovakia I got my outward flights reimbursed. Not too sure about Spain though
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

booty, can I ask whether you were at regular private language schools or something different? And how long ago that was?

Not to be confrontational in any way, but I've been around Europe 10 years now and honestly haven't heard of private lang schools offering this kind of benefit - not for a long time.

If I'm giving incorrect general info, I'd honestly like to know!

I also have to quickly say that I know little about Lithuania, but Poland and Slovakia, yes.... I think!
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InTime



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes...many errors on the Web site
I sent them corrections...
No one/nothing said 'Thank you'

Also...here's the Spanish Motto from their Invitation Letter
Motto: enriqueciendo la vida de nuestros ni�os y nuestros mundo.

'nuestros mundo'
..............OR.................
'nuestro mundo'


Much thanks
community-consciousness Cool

I'll wait until my Irish Citizenship-via-Grandparents comes thru
Instead of Spain...it looks like I'm leaving China for Czech Spa town
As a Massage lover, that sounds good
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InTime



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To complete the life/death cycle
BELOW was just sent to...
deus-ex-machina

Quote:
Just to let you know...
your school/Web site/offers to teachers...are being discussed now on the ESLCafe FORUM

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=56704
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....send them an information brochure to attend the 2008 Madrid TESOL Conference for free along with 2 nights Hotel free!

then have the unmarked cars ready Smile
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