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Foreigners to face employment restrictions in South China
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ispeakgoodenglish



Joined: 07 May 2007
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Location: Guangzhou, North of the Zhujiang

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Foreigners to face employment restrictions in South China Reply with quote

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From Xinhuanet. GUANGZHOU, Oct. 8 (Xinhua) -- South China's Guangdong Province is drafting a regulation to restrict the employment of foreigners and to ban them from certain jobs.

Under the proposed regulation, the provincial labor and social security department will divide jobs into three categories -- "encouraged", "restricted" and "forbidden" -- to be published annually, said a spokesman with the bureau.

For jobs in the "encouraged" category, the prospect foreign employees will be issued permits. Employers will be charged fees for hiring foreigners for "restricted" positions.

The employment of foreigners without permits will be illegal, said the spokesman, without indicating specific jobs in the three categories.

Foreign students and foreigners without residence permits are ineligible to work without government approval, and they risk fines of up to 1,000 yuan (about 130 U.S. dollars) for working illegally.

This act was intended to cut crime among the growing number of foreigners illegally residing and working in Guangdong, said Yan Xiangrong, a deputy of the province's people's congress.

An estimated 10,000 foreigners are living in Guangdong, many of them financially insecure and involved in crime, such as drug trafficking, fraud and theft.

In the first half of this year, 102 foreigners were arrested on criminal charges, more than triple the number of the same period last year.

The local public security department plans to set up a data base at the end of this year, recording information of foreigners' visas, residence status, travel and departure and entrance registrations.
Editor: Song Shutao


From http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-10/08/content_6846689.htm

Definetely something to keep an eye on.....
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jwbhomer



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the last paragraph mention is made of setting up a database by the end of the year. I'm surprised there is no such database already, since the information is certainly being collected by schools, hotels, banks and so on.
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johnchina



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: none Reply with quote

I can't resist being pedantic here ...

"The employment of foreigners without permits will be illegal".

Will? I thought it already was?

I can't help thinking that this is just another publicity stunt - "Hey, Chinese citizens, we really are doing something about this massive problem facing our society!"

As jwbhomer says, the surprising fact is that there is no such database already. Are those computers at PSB offices just for playing online computer games? Oh, er ... actually ...
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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malu



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the '..employers will be charged fees...' bit sums up what this is really about. A means of extracting dosh for local oficials.
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AussieGuyInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.... restrict the employment of foreigners and to ban them from certain jobs.

I'm quite certain that the authorities are not concerned with foreign teachers. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that they are probably not terribly concerned about 'westerners'. Don't mean to be a racist; anyone who spends some time in Guangzhou will see what I mean.
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ispeakgoodenglish



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of 2 bars that have a few filipino staff, I am guessing this law is aimed mostly at them. I couldn't see the govt clamping down on FT or professional workers but in some lower service jobs it is most probable...

Do any govt departments actually share information here?
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Ahchoo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing it's the kinder gentler approach to the scamming drug dealing Africans. (as opposed to the Beijing baton approach).
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Sinobear



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it is merely the application of the basic rules which have always been in place: a foreign expert is someone who fulfills a need which the Chinese cannot themselves fulfill. If the job can be filled by a Chinese native, then it must be filled by a Chinese native (hell, look at all the university students who cannot get a job...any job - experience and work ethics aside).
Do we need foreign DJs and bar staff? Not really.
Foreign owned/operated enterprises are encouraged (with the USD investment pegged at a minimum of 2,000,000 USD). Most of the foreigners here (in GZ) are small business owners and fall way short of the minimum.

So, to clean up the competition for much needed jobs, who's to cry over the rejection of visas/FRPs for non-qualified foreigners who do not meet the minimum requirements for legal residence?


Cheers!
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jammish



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinobear wrote:

Do we need foreign DJs and bar staff? Not really.