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FuzzX · Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 122

All of you degree holders boast about having a degree and how you need one to teach and that its not hard just to go back to University. Well to prove you all wrong I went back to school to get my degree. I was stopped at admissions... apparently having completed a previous college 2 year diploma program disqualifies me from attending university. I have attended 3 years of college, have 2 college diplomas, 2 TEFL certifications, have taught in 4 different countries, know my English grammar backwards and forwards and speak 4 languages but I CANT GET IN TO A UNIVERSITY... they said I would have been better off not having any education at all... W T F Canada.

How much BS is that?!?

tedkarma · Last edited by tedkarma on Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:44 pm; edited 2 times in total

TheLongWayHome · Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi

FuzzX · Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 122

Glenski · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

All I can say is, you are really mixing two stories here, and the title of this thread is misleading.

1. The "no degree" story says, if you don't have a degree you can't teach.

(This is true or false, of course, depending on the country where you live and their visa regulations.)

2. Your situation where you were not allowed to go back to university and take classes.

(This is astonishing. How can any institution of higher learning prevent someone, a paying customer, from studying more? I for one need much more clarification on this.)

merlin · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:45 am Post subject:

Fuzzx, you probably have moderate to severe communications problems stemming from your extensive time abroad. I'd venture to guess some time in your 8th year in your second country you just found life to be a hell of a lot easier if you just stopped listening to what people actually say and instead just make up dialogues in your own mind to suit whatever unbalanced state of mind you're in at the moment.

But what do I know, eh? Just a guess.

What I suspect your problem is is that they won't recognize your 2 year computer science degree from 1975, for example. This is quite common - there's a limit on how old credit can be before it's "counted". All very standard and proper, especially when you consider the fact that most people forget 90% of the subject matter of a course within 2 years.

Time to just suck it up and either push through this obstacle with brute force (start from square one) or find a way around it (ask some people on advice regarding accredited educational alternatives - then listen).

I also agree with glenski that you've got the topic muddled here. Are you implying that since it's setteld for YOU it's therefore settled for everyone for all time?

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

denise · Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish

I don't think the 'no degree' feud will ever be settled...

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william wallace · Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between

saint57 · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:56 am Post subject:

jwbhomer · Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 876 Location: CANADA

OP, there are lots of good universities besides Guelph. Have you considered Woodsworth College of the University of Toronto? See http://www.wdw.utoronto.ca/ Their admission requirements are tailored to those who for some reason did not come up through the "regular" channels of secondary education in Ontario. I'm sure they could find a place for you, and perhaps give you credit for some of your previous post-secondary education and life experience. By the way, they have a TESOL programme!

FuzzX · Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 122

Thank you for some positive input jwb.. I appreciate that very much.

My 2 year course was completed in 04 (police foundations), maybe you've heard of it. PF is a required program before gaining entry into the police force here in Ontario, it teaches tolerance among other things... seems alot of you could do with a few years of that.

'Guelph has a good reputation and they wouldn't shut the door in your face for having a two year diploma. '

They in fact did... I don't care if I get credit or not for my previous program... I would just like the chance to be FAIRLY admitted or denied on the basis of my character or academic standing.

'What I suspect your problem is is that they won't recognize your 2 year computer science degree'

I wish this were the case.

I am having the previous vice president of education for the UoG look into this for me. I'll keep you posted as to how it pans out for those that are interested.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

The OP is missing out important information. Possibly he received subsidized tuition for the PF course and the University won't give it out twice.

jpvanderwerf2001 · Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York

markholmes · Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Wengehua

I have a three year diploma from a college and a three year degree from a university in the UK. Currently enrolled in two colleges and the University of British Columbia in Vancouver (yeah, bad timetabling, lots of driving). No problem at all signing up. I have a credit card after all.