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Good Place to Work; Gannan Normal University
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kepotts



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 29
Location: Ganzhou, Jiangxi

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Good Place to Work; Gannan Normal University Reply with quote

Due to the lack of positive posts, I felt it my duty to write about my university. I am a 1st time ESL teacher in China, and for a 1st job I could not ask for a frienlier or more cooperative place to work. Gannan Normal University is in Ganzhou, Jiangxi province, which is kind of a small town, not for you if you want to "stay Western", but a nice place to immerse yourself in the Chinese way of things. The school has lived up to everything they have promised to do and more. So far so good. I think they are always looking for more foreign teachers as well, so let me know if you have any questions!! I hope everyone else is having a good year so far also.
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SnoopBot



Joined: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 740
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I don't wish to be coy or rude but your posting sounds like it was written in Chinglish. Maybe you were tired when posting, sometimes I do this too.

I am mentioning this because many of us FT's are suspicious of stellar reports in this industry. We view everything with high suspicion due to the high level of scams most of us have experienced. When we see positive reports we tend to try to "read between the words."


Are you a non-native speaker by chance? If so, we will not come to the conclusion some Chinese teacher aid was instructed to post a positive report here on Dave's.

I apologize if I am wrong in my assumption.
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AussieGuyInChina



Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 403

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
your posting sounds like it was written in Chinglish..............are you a non-native speaker by chance?

Snoopbot

I'm not going to denigrate your message, but I will challenge you to put your money where you mouth is. I'll bet you RMB 1,000 that kepotts (whom I have never met, know nothing about and have never heard of prior to today) is a native speaker of English.

Are you up to the challenge?
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TingBuDong



Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 27
Location: Zhangye, Gansu, China

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with sharing positive experiences. I'm in my second year at a school I've been quite happy with (Hexi University in Zhangye, Gansu province). It's small and remote with a low salary, but I'm here to immerse myself in China and learn the language so I'm quite happy with it.
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kepotts



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 29
Location: Ganzhou, Jiangxi

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's fine Snoopbot if you think I am not a native English speaker, I was prepared for some doubts being posted. I am actually from St. Louis, MO and have only been in China about 2 months. I am by no means Chinese. My main goal was to share about my positive teaching experiences. I hope somebody takes some good from it.
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 905

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kepotts: Thanks for your contribution.

As previously pointed out, positive posts are often looked at with great scrutiny and suspicion. That's due to "planted" school reviews.

Here are some tips for getting higher credibility and acceptance of positive reviews:

1. Have a credible post count. When someone posts about their wonderful two years at a school, on their first post, it raises eyebrows.

2. Get past the 90 day honeymoon period. Wait to see how your school handles your first big "misunderstanding" about holiday pay, etc. before making a judgment.

Thanks again and don't be a stranger.
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SnoopBot



Joined: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 740
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teatime of Soul wrote:
kepotts: Thanks for your contribution.

As previously pointed out, positive posts are often looked at with great scrutiny and suspicion. That's due to "planted" school reviews.

Here are some tips for getting higher credibility and acceptance of positive reviews:

1. Have a credible post count. When someone posts about their wonderful two years at a school, on their first post, it raises eyebrows.

2. Get past the 90 day honeymoon period. Wait to see how your school handles your first big "misunderstanding" about holiday pay, etc. before making a judgment.

Thanks again and don't be a stranger.


Yes the low number of postings and the short, choppy posting style is the same I've seen from Chinese admin plants. So I wanted to be fair and give the OP a chance to clarify.

Since I was the first responder to his posting, I got this out of the way very early in the thread.

I'm sorry to be suspicious, but I've seen too many of these in the past.

AussieGuy, I will not place any bets, I asked the OP in a respectful way and got an answer back. The purpose was to clarify suspicions early in the thread. I figured if I never got a response back it was a fishing attempt (Drop a positive report and never come back)

You can keep your bet money and go buy a case of Emu greens or Swan Blacks and a Darwin Stubby holder.
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AussieGuyInChina



Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 403

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snoopbot

I think that telling a native speaker of English that his / her writing reads like Chinglish is fundamentally disrespectful, regardless of how much sugar-coating is employed.

And the fact that you thought kepott's message was possibly written by a non-native user of English, regardless of your perception that it was written in a "short, choppy posting style", raises the question of your knowledge of English.

Telling it like I see it, Snoopbot. By all means, feel free to respond, but no further comment from me.