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goodbye
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| Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it. |
Crap. If one was a cleaner what could one make of it or a security guard or a TEFLer? |
I could speculate about the many and varied cases, but if you want to slot groups of people into stereotypes based on their profession, then I'd say that having jobs like the ones you mentioned tend to come with less responsibility and stress (in some sense). Maybe they'd be healthier and happier. Maybe they'd love their job and do it well. Maybe they'd start their own company, be wildly successful, and monopolize the market, though remaining popular in the public eye. Maybe, just maybe, they'd run in an electoral race and win, change laws, positively affect the downtrodden, produce a brilliant original doctrine, and win the Nobel Prize. |
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Stephen Jones
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| then I'd say that having jobs like the ones you mentioned tend to come with less responsibility and stress (in some sense). |
There have been surveys on this, and the most stressful job of all is being unemployed!
Stress is strongly related to a feeling that you are subject to requirements beyond your control. This tends to apply to the more menial occupations. |
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mcsam
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I am thinking of doing much the same thing soon. What countries have you worked in so far?
I started in China then moved to Vietnam and now I'm in the U.A.E. who knows where I'll go next  |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| The important thing is to put away for retirement while you teach. Especially if you do it for many years. |
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hollysuel
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: mcsam |
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| throwdownyourcrutches wrote: |
| I am thinking of doing much the same thing soon. What countries have you worked in so far? |
S. Korea (2 years)
USA (1 year)
Finland (9 years)
I came to Finland for a nine month contract and am still here after nine years... |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Location: North Carolina
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| ...if you walk into a job interview for an international business, importer/exporter etc. do you think they'll care if you have a translation qualification? They only care that you can convincingly converse with customers in that language. |
They most certainly do want certification in translation in the language pair advertised, and even then it's not enough. The jobs where you convincingly converse with customers in another language pay the same as McDonald's. In fact, here in Quebec, French-English fluency is a prerequisite for a position at McDo.
Sometimes the positions that require up-to-date certification pay that rate, too! |
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justin032
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I disagree. I wrote what you refer to above in the context that you are able to do something other than solely translating, which is why I referred to a business context. Assuming that you are equal in status to another candidate and happen to be fluent (and can prove it) in French/Spanish or whatever will give you an edge...with or without an official translation certificate.
I will again repeat what I said earlier, that I find outside of academia formal "qualifications" (while obviously valuable in many respects) are definitely not essential--the business world is much more interested in actual ability and real life results, not paper certificates. |
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Vanica
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Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| You can find out about the professional translation business on www.proz.com |
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