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nobuko



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Searching Apartments Reply with quote

I need some help finding websites that offer apartment vacancies in Osaka. So far, I have come across www.gaijinpot.com and the pickings aren't looking so good.

If anyone has any good websites that they would like to share with me, please do.

Also, does anyone have roommates that they have never met before and if so how did that work out? or did you get the roommate from hell?

Danielle
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have lived in various places in Japan where I had housemates I didn't know in advance, either through work or just moving into a shared house as that was the best option at the time. My roommates have been different nationalities- British, French, Australian, Canadian Chinese, Japanese, Scottish.

Some I am still good friends with years later, some were mostly good but sometimes annoying. One in particular was very difficult- she hardly cleaned up after herself, never did the dishes and would do things like leaving her hairdryer, plugged in, in the bathroom sink. I didn't even want to touch it and didn't see why I should have to put her hairdryer away anyway so I asked her to come in and take it out of the sink. She told me she was in a hurry- so was I, I said. She finally grudgingly came in and put it away with the comment "I pity the man you marry". Shocked Well, that went double for her. Actually she was 40 years old and came to Japan because she had got divorced...

I had "air-con wars" with a Canadian housemate- in the summer here when it was about 35 degrees outside she would come home and set the air-con to about 17 degrees. I would get home and feel like I was walking into a fridge and change it to about 24, which is still a bit low for me but I consider it a reasonable enough temp. After 20 mins she would come out again and switch it down to about 16, I would freeze, etc etc.

The Japanese girls I lived with (3 Japanese girls and me in the house at one point) all had waist length hair and could clog the shower in a day but it was me who ended up cleaning the plug out.

Mostly little things and it depends on your own personality and how tolerant you are. I have heard much worse housemate stories than mine and most of the people I lived with were lovely and it was a lot of fun.
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Mahik



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, it'll be like reliving my college years all over again... Razz
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southofreality



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Searching Apartments Reply with quote

nobuko wrote:
I need some help finding websites that offer apartment vacancies in Osaka. So far, I have come across www.gaijinpot.com and the pickings aren't looking so good.
If anyone has any good websites that they would like to share with me, please do.


http://www.e-apaman.jp/tiyuou9.htm

貸料 = monthly rental expense; values are in yen, of course.

Realistically, you're going to have difficulty getting into an apartment with a reasonable rent unless you or someone you know can communicate in Japanese (some assertive, but likable people I know were able to handle the initial part of the apartment search with minimal Japanese skills, but they are the exception, I think) . Finding an apartment from overseas is probably going to prove very expensive.
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nobuko



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Searching Apartments Reply with quote

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Realistically, you're going to have difficulty getting into an apartment with a reasonable rent unless you or someone you know can communicate in Japanese (some assertive, but likable people I know were able to handle the initial part of the apartment search with minimal Japanese skills, but they are the exception, I think) . Finding an apartment from overseas is probably going to prove very expensive.


Luckily for me, my parents are coming with me to help settle in. My father is Japanese and could help with the communication barrier and the negotiations. My concern is in finding an area that is pretty central to everything. I heard Daikokucho is an excellent place to live, its close to everything, and I'm minutes from the subway line. I hope I'll find a place in the agency and that way I don't have to pay gift money.

Thanks for the website, I will definitely check that out.

Danielle Laughing
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nobuko



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mostly little things and it depends on your own personality and how tolerant you are. I have heard much worse housemate stories than mine and most of the people I lived with were lovely and it was a lot of fun.


I think I would be better off on my own and get to know my roommate candidates before moving in with them simply because once they settle in, its not easy to get them out. I'll admit it I have a bit of an OCD obsession-compulsive disorder issue and I need things to be orderly and tidy. I blame my Otosan for Japanese cleanliness. I have these uncanny thoughts that everyone should be sparkling clean but realistically I know that's not true. And touching other people's hair is so unsanitary; I would start thinking about Seppuku before I attempt that nastiness.

It's too bad because it's so much cheaper to have a roomie. <sigh>
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southofreality



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobuko wrote:
I'll admit it I have a bit of an OCD obsession-compulsive disorder issue and I need things to be orderly and tidy. I blame my Otosan for Japanese cleanliness. I have these uncanny thoughts that everyone should be sparkling clean but realistically I know that's not true. And touching other people's hair is so unsanitary; I would start thinking about Seppuku before I attempt that nastiness.


Shocked Uh-oh, another stereotype about to be shattered in T-9,8,7,... when are you coming?


Sounds like you'll be in good hands if your father is coming with you. If you've got time to look around for place after you get here, that's the best thing you can do. Moving into a place sight unseen anywhere (photos don't count) is risky, at best. In Japan, you could easily get stuck in a place with an atmosphere like something straight out of a J-horror movie.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did mention that the people whose hair I cleaned out of the plughole were all Japanese, right? Shocked

I also expect to hear the sound of preconceptions shattering about the time you arrive... Laughing
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nobuko



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
I did mention that the people whose hair I cleaned out of the plughole were all Japanese, right? Shocked

I also expect to hear the sound of preconceptions shattering about the time you arrive... Laughing


Sorry, if I sound dense here but I don't understand what you mean by "Japanese hair" who cares who's hair it is. It's just plain GROSS.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point was not what kind of hair it was, but that my experience perhaps doesn't fit with your idea of "Japanese cleanliness"- in a house full of Japanese, it was me (not Japanese) who cleaned the bath- the other girls would have let the hair in the plughole go until the water was overflowing out the bathroom door, believe me.

There's kind of a paradox in Japan- in some areas people can be scrupulously clean, and in other areas many seem quite happy not to be- beaches come to mind here. That's what we meant by stereotypes smashing- you might be surprised by what you find once you've been here a while.

And sure hair in the plughole is gross, but it's one of the facts of life, like dirty diapers for parents and cleaning the toilet for just about everyone. I've seen far worse travelling in third world countries. Someone has to clean the hair out of the plughole, and even though removing it didn't kill me, I just wished it wasn't me every time.


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