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Vanishing Dollar and Vanishing Dream

 
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Ain'tRight



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Vanishing Dollar and Vanishing Dream Reply with quote

Let me preface my remarks by saying I do not wish to be so pessimistic, it's just very frustrating to watch my dream of teaching overseas drop along with the US Dollar. Thus far, I've saved a little over 5K and will have close to 7k by Summer '08, but I still don't think it's enough for CELTA, rent deposit, rent, living expenses, laptop, plane, etc. Does anyone know if converting Dollars to Pounds or Euros makes any sense?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be something to try. I keep reading that the dollar is expected to continue dropping, so converting now might save you some dollars.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's more than three times what I had saved for my first overseas teaching stint.

Plan well- but don't worry so much. Check out South America, or other places where the dollar still goes a little ways, and you'll be fine...


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Justin
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So just do your teacher training in the States, and then get a job overseas. That way, the low US dollar will be a benefit, because when you send money home, then it will convert to many, many dollars.

I'm in Japan and am Canadian. I have the opposite problem. The Canadian dollar has gone up by 25% in the last year, and so that means all the yen I send home isn't worth that much any more. When I arrived four years ago, I could send 100,000Y to Canada and get close to $1300 for it. Now I get $800 and something for it.
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tedkarma



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: The World is my Oyster

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
That way, the low US dollar will be a benefit, because when you send money home, then it will convert to many, many dollars.


Gambate has it right - the low US$ is an advantage for you - why are you concerned? Get out there RIGHT NOW and land a job in Korea or Taiwan - somewhere with a strong currency and they will convert very well.

I'm not sure why you think you need so much money to make the move?

Not recommended, but my first move to TEFL overseas was with debt rather than cash. Get going!
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denise



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with ted and gambate. The ever-weakening dollar means that the currency that you earn will be more valuable.

I think I had about $5000 saved up, and with that I paid for my course, airfare, and the first month's expenses, and had a bit to leave behind for emergencies.

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Ain'tRight



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh. Silly me. I never considered the potential earnings when I convert BACK to Dollars.

As for destinations, EE is my preference; I believe it's prudent to have a bit more start up cash in EE than, say, in the Far East. Just my hunch.

Yeah, I was looking at CELTA in the US; would still like to take it in country though. I need to make a coupla executive decisions here soon, like where and when.

Thanks everyone for you comments.

Ain'tRight
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Justin Trullinger



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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Heh. Silly me. I never considered the potential earnings when I convert BACK to Dollars.


I didn't either. I guess it depends on where you've been working. I started as a teacher in Western Europe, and for the most part, the idea of sending savings home never came up as an issue. Wink Wonder why?

Ecuador, where I now live, dollarized their economy several years ago. So the conversion rate between here and home hasn't come up for me for a while...



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Justin
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming that EE is Eastern Europe, you're not gonna have anything saved up to convert back to dollars on a teaching salary. Sad
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kingmalka



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
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Location: San Diego - Hong Kong

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Vanishing Dollar and Vanishing Dream Reply with quote

Ain'tRight wrote:
Let me preface my remarks by saying I do not wish to be so pessimistic, it's just very frustrating to watch my dream of teaching overseas drop along with the US Dollar. Thus far, I've saved a little over 5K and will have close to 7k by Summer '08, but I still don't think it's enough for CELTA, rent deposit, rent, living expenses, laptop, plane, etc. Does anyone know if converting Dollars to Pounds or Euros makes any sense?


You could fly out right now if you wanted to -- it just depends on where and in what conditions you want to teach. I left L.A. to Hong Kong with less than $3,000 US and I'm doing fine. My flight, one-way, was $400, booked only 2 weeks in advance. My laptop was $1300 (you can get a great one for $700) which I bought in HK. Food is cheap, and to get to Hangzhou cost only an additional $100. Most schools provide free and relatively decent accomodation, some meals, and generally enough money to get by and perhaps even save a little. What the hell do you need more than $7000 for? You're not going to be able to find work in Europe anyway -- at least not legally. And no, I don't have/don't need CELTA.

EDIT: Fly from Vancouver => Hong Kong for ~$300 US
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of schools in Korea and Japan will provide you with a furnished flat. I arrived for my job in Japan with less than 2000 US $. (okay this was way back in 1996). The school put me up in their apartment, walking distance from the school and the pervious teacher had left two days before I arrived, and left food in the fridge and cupboards so I made it through the first month (and to my first paycheck) on about 400 dollars.
I usually recommend that people have $2000 dollars to get set up in Mexico where the above senario is much less likely to happen.
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civi1968



Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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Location: altoona

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: falling dollar Reply with quote

If you exchange your dollars for euros, you will be losing money, almost .50 for every dollar. My advice would be to only exchange if you need euros and only as much as you need. The euro is considered to be getting to the point of being overvalued so it may not go much higher.
I own euros in a CD and for every penny the euro goes up, I make a $100. But I would not buy anymore. I bought them when they were 1.24.
Some countries you may want to teach may give you less for your dollar for their currency. But buying Euros may cost you more. For example, in ukraine, you will get about 4 grivnas per dollar and 6-7 grivnas per euro. That is about a .50 cent difference. Hope this helps. mike
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maccamlc



Joined: 24 May 2007
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Location: Adelaide, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a post, related to another question I asked.

The Australian dollar is rising and getting closer to an even footing with the US.

But can I ask, in regards to Eastern Europe, what would you recommend as the minimum needed to get setup and look for a job, and still survive?
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