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vikuk
Joined: 23 May 2007
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| Again to the OP. Despite what Vikuk says, IMO Xian is an awesome city |
I stand corrected - London, Paris, Tokyo, New York and Xian  |
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Sinko
Joined: 21 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome post DR!!! Some people just come on here and and go on and on and on, whinge, whinge, whinge, moan, moan, moan about their dancing monkeys, like everybody in China is based on their stereotype FTs. I wish you continued success. You're a smart person, DR.
I found Xi'an to be a top place. My job will take me back there again soon and I'm looking forward to it. I love the wide streets and the layout of the city.
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| I stand corrected - London, Paris, Tokyo, New York ... |
C'mon Vik, get with the times. They are boring, overrated, expensive cities. How about:
Vancouver, Geneva, Perth, Dubrovnik, Prague. |
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PattyFlipper
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sinko wrote: |
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| I stand corrected - London, Paris, Tokyo, New York ... |
C'mon Vik, get with the times. They are boring, overrated, expensive cities. How about:
Vancouver, Geneva, Perth, Dubrovnik, Prague. |
London, Paris, Tokyo, New York, boring? My, how jaded we are. As to Perth and Geneva, I suppose there is no accounting for taste. The Swiss wrote the book when it comes to boring. |
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Moon Over Parma
Joined: 20 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Awesome post DR!!! Some people just come on here and and go on and on and on, whinge, whinge, whinge, moan, moan, moan about their dancing monkeys, like everybody in China is based on their stereotype FTs. |
Agreed. An "ignore" option would be nice. Some forums have such a thing: it allows you to add certain posters on a filter and when you read threads they are delightfully free of having to sort through the jaundice/vitriol that seems to be the modus operandi for some regulars here. The function provides a user the opportunity to find some rational, factual, on topic posts. I'm not sure if the technology exists on this forum, but it's a great thing. I appreciate much of this thread, but there do seem to be some individuals intent on obscuring points and diluting answers with their personal agendas that I wish I could filter out. They seem intent on doing this on many, many posts here. They do not deserve censorship, but having the personal freedom to filter them out makes for pleasant reading. As for Xian, it's definitely on my list of places to check out. |
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vikuk
Joined: 23 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Well lets take a closer look at some of Xian awesome
http://shanghaiist.com/2006/12/18/beijing_is_dirt.php
A survey on pollution makes Xian Asia's second most polluted major city - just one place above Beijing.
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1- Beijing
2- Xi'an
3- Kathmandu
4- Dhaka
5- New Delhi
Air pollution in these cities is five to six times as high as levels that the World Health Organization considers safe and at least three times as high as levels in the largest European and American cities |
Now that is a bit of real objective awesome - and some useful info for anyone interested in their own personal health - who wanted to go live in Xian 
By the way - that survey was carried out with no reference to who I am - but once again expect "he's only a bitter whinger" type responces to this post 
Last edited by vikuk on Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:34 am; edited 1 time in total |
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PattyFlipper
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| I appreciate much of this thread, but there do seem to be some individuals intent on obscuring points and diluting answers with their personal agendas that I wish I could filter out. They seem intent on doing this on many, many posts here. They do not deserve censorship, |
This is a discussion board, which by it's very definition will attract diversity of opinion. If every post here resembled the slanted drivel put out by the likes of the China Daily, it would make for very dull reading, and be of extremely limited functionality. In addition to the positives of working in China, there are drawbacks and potential pitfalls of which every unsuspecting newbie should be aware, and it would be a very foolish person indeed who dismisses out of hand the opinions and experiences of seasoned posters, simply because they are not what you want to hear. Hidden agendas are not the exclusive preserve of those who hold negative opinions, and less than positive comments serve as a useful counterfoil to some of the more rose-tinted views of living and working in China. |
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Moon Over Parma
Joined: 20 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| PattyFlipper wrote: |
This is a discussion board, which by it's very definition will attract diversity of opinion. If every post here resembled the slanted drivel put out by the likes of the China Daily, it would make for very dull reading, and be of extremely limited functionality. In addition to the positives of working in China, there are drawbacks and potential pitfalls of which every unsuspecting newbie should be aware, and it would be a very foolish person indeed who dismisses out of hand the opinions and experiences of seasoned posters, simply because they are not what you want to hear. Hidden agendas are not the exclusive preserve of those who hold negative opinions, and less than positive comments serve as a useful counterfoil to some of the more rose-tinted views of living and working in China. |
To the contrary, there are people who spend hours on message boards simply trolling with negativity. It'd be nice to siphon them out just like I would "positive" propaganda. I believe you knew that's what I meant, but you wanted to play devil's advocate. Regardless, having the ability to block out certain posters whose only point of posting is to rain on threads would be a wonderful tool. It's not about "diversity of opinion," but giving baiters the right to bait and folks who don't want to see it the right to block it out without having to scroll through pages of their vitriol. |
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peepertice
Joined: 23 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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how the **** can Kathmandu be number 3?? anyone else who's been there really surprised by this? ok, so i was there 9 years ago but i find it hard to believe it's become that polluted. sorry to digress
anyway, i think people have been a little shocked by Viks negative bullet points but then i think he more than redeems himself with this:
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I think Xian probably, could be, one of the better cities in China to work - but even in the best cities of China, I beleive, the awesome factor is difficult to come by.
But this doesn't mean you can�t really enjoy yourselves in China (in any location) � after all awesome is a relative term, and one man's awesome may well be the other man�s �the pitts�. So Xian, or any other China location, just come with your eyes open and your expectations set at your own realistic "what is awesome" level Idea |
wise words, imo |
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