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jfurgers



Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Bringing money into Mexico Reply with quote

Well I finally have someone who is going to buy my house! Closing date is December 15. IF this works out I'll be able to FINALLY get to D.F. sometime in January or April. April if I have to finish out my semester teaching ESL at the college here in Plano Texas.

My question is since I'll have no need to have a bank account in the States once I go to Mexico, how can I get my money into Mexico? I'm closing out my accounts here in the States a couple of days before I head out to D.F.

I thought I would take travelers checks with me and put them in a safe deposit box once I get to D.F. until I open a bank account. From what I've been reading on these posts I won't be able to open an account until I have my FM3 which may take some time. My wife is from D.F. but our marriage isn't recognized by the Govt of Mexico yet because we haven't done all the necessary paper work for that and I want to have some money in an account in Mexico in my name only because her family has all of their names on my wifes accounts and I don't trust nor care too much for her family so I figure I would have a little nest egg put aside in case of an emergency.

Anyone ever tried taking travelers checks to open a bank account in Mexico? What's the best way to take money with you into Mexico if you have no accounts in the States or your home country?
Gracias!!
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My situation is different from yours, but my solution to the banking problem may be useful. Before I arrived here in September, I opened an account with Bank of America on-line (very easy to do), so I could have my Social Security checks directly deposited in it. Here in Mexico City, I can withdraw my money at any Scotiabank branch without paying any fees, and I get a good exchange rate to boot. So you could open a Bank of America account and deposit the bulk of your nestegg in it and then withdraw your money at your leisure once you're here.
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GueroPaz



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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Location: Thailand or Mexico

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always leave your money in one of your Texas accounts and draw it out by ATM. I did that for almost 3 years, using Wells Fargo, including having my pension deposited directly into WF. Their toll free number to Nevada worked all the way from the southern end of Chiapas, free!

I doubt that it's much trouble to close an American account, after you've been in Mexico for a while.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jfurgers wrote:
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My wife is from D.F. but our marriage isn't recognized by the Govt of Mexico yet because we haven't done all the necessary paper work for that

You probably need to get the marriage certificate apostilled in the USA before filing it in Mexico.

About the bank account, most of the expats who have retired in Mexico keep a foreign bank account for receiving their pensions (or other money). If you ever end up working online, you may regret giving up your US bank account.
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NinaNina



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Bank of America: evil, yet great Reply with quote

Allow me to second the recommendation for having an account with Bank of America and withrdrawing money at Scotia via ATM. There are absolutely no fees and the exchange rate is better than any offered at the banks themselves.

Also, if you are a teacher in the states and a member of NEA, you can get B of A's NEA money market account, currently at 5.03% APR. No fees if you keep a minimum of $10,000 I believe, and lots of interest in these days of the weak dollar.

The only downside you may experience is the 3,000 peso limit on withdrawals. When we have a big purchase, we have to visit the ATM a couple days in a row to get enough cash. There is, however, the SAFESEND program which allows a greater quantity to be transferred, also fee-free, through Bank of America.

Congratulations on the house sale! No small feat in the declining market. We got ours sold in Portland right before our move down.

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MO39



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Bank of America: evil, yet great Reply with quote

NinaNina wrote:
Allow me to second the recommendation for having an account with Bank of America and withrdrawing money at Scotia via ATM. There are absolutely no fees and the exchange rate is better than any offered at the banks themselves.

The only downside you may experience is the 3,000 peso limit on withdrawals. When we have a big purchase, we have to visit the ATM a couple days in a row to get enough cash.
-Serena
www.mexpop.blogspot.com
www.haveyouseen.blogspot.com


One day I needed to withdraw 6000 pesos from my account, and I did on one visit, by withdrawing 3000 pesos twice. I don't know if you could do it three times, though.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The total daily and weekly limit you may withdraw is determined by arrangement with your foreign bank. I have done multiple withdrawals, back-to-back. It's he$$ on the withdrawal fees but saves days of shoe leather and time.
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FreddyM



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: Bank of America: evil, yet great Reply with quote

NinaNina wrote:
Allow me to second the recommendation for having an account with Bank of America and withrdrawing money at Scotia via ATM. There are absolutely no fees and the exchange rate is better than any offered at the banks themselves.
.... There is, however, the SAFESEND program which allows a greater quantity to be transferred, also fee-free, through Bank of America.



Here is some information on the Bank of America SafeSend program, which sounds interesting as you can send a lot more money than the $3,000 peso limit.

http://www.bankofamerica.com/safesend/

So, I'm wondering, can you send money to yourself using this program and a BoA account in the states?
I'm also in the curious position of sometimes having to send money to the States, and have yet to find a cheap or easy way to do it. I couldn't find anything online with regards to being able to deposit money into an American bank account. Does anybody have any experience with this? I do have a BoA account in the states and an HSBC account here in Mexico.

And like other posters commented, it'd be a good idea to maintain an account in the States, even after you are well-established in Mexico, in order to keep certain financial transactions from becoming a pain. I had a hell of a time trying to cash a (relatively) large American check (in dollars) here because I didn't have a U.S. account at the time, and HSBC put so many conditions into cashing it that it took nearly a year to do it.
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jfurgers



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for the useful information. I do have an account with BofA so I'll probably keep that. I was thinking that I wouldn't have to because the only bill I will have in the States is a student loan. I just want to make sure I have no problems getting money from my account in the States into a bank in Mexico City. Is there a set amount I will need to have to open an account or will the FM3 be all I need?

Thanks.

Happy Monday!! Very Happy
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfurgers wrote:
Is there a set amount I will need to have to open an account or will the FM3 be all I need?


It depends on what kind of account you are opening. If it is a Nomina (direct deposit account for a job) you don't need to deposit any money into the account, since they know that you'll have steady deposits coming in.
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sarliz



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just opened an account with Banamex (which I should theoretically be able to connect to my Citibank accounts online, but I haven't tried yet), and I needed at least 1000 pesos, my FM3, and a proof of address (I used the most recent phone bill, but it didn't need to be in my name, which was nice). Usually, I'm kind of anti-globalization, but it sure comes in handy with banking, no?
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NinaNina



Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: SafeSend Reply with quote

SafeSend is a great system but, unfortunately, you cannot send money to yourself. You can, however, "send" it from your boyfriend/girlfriend and list yourself as the recipient. For example, I have a joint account with my husband, so I can list him as the sender and myself as the recipient.

Good luck!

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scottmx81



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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Location: Morelia, Mexico.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only downside you may experience is the 3,000 peso limit on withdrawals.

It depends on the Bank.

HSBC - 4000
Scotia - 3000
Banorte - 5000
Banamex 8900+
Bancomer 8900+
Convenience ATMs in places like Sanbournes, typically 3000

It is very much possible to take out larger amounts at many ATMs. I signed a form at my bank in Canada to have my withdrawl limit raised to $1000 CAD and it isn't very hard to find ATM's that let me take out about 8900 pesos. That was about most I was allowed to take out based on the exchange rate at the time. Not all Banamex/Bancomer ATMs allow these high withdrawls, but many do. I knew which ones to go to when necessary. For example, at the Bancomer just off the main plaza in Morelia, of the three ATMs, at least one of them would dispense 8900 pesos in a single transaction, and one of them wouldn't.

For Canadians, a very important reason to shut down your bank accounts if moving abroad is because you can't declare yourself a non-resident for tax purposes while you maintain such ties to the country. I don't know if the same sort of idea applies in the U.S.

I think most independently opened accounts do require a minimum of 1000-3000 pesos depending on bank and plan. By indepedent I mean not direct payroll linked accounts.
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dixie



Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It depends on the Bank.

HSBC - 4000
Scotia - 3000
Banorte - 5000
Banamex 8900+
Bancomer 8900+
Convenience ATMs in places like Sanbournes, typically 3000


For Scotiabbank I can withdraw a maximum of 5000 pesos. I think I have done that at other banks too...although I do not remember specifically which ones.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For Scotiabbank I can withdraw a maximum of 5000 pesos


Thats true, I did it today. Only problem is, they've raised the "multiples" amount to $200 pesos, which is annoying - I always seem to end up with something like $197.75" in the account when I want to clean it out, which leaves 2 options - wait in a long line in the bank, or got to another bank�s ATM and pay commissions. Sad
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