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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: Tourist Visa - New Policy |
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Mexico has a new policy regarding tourist visas. All tourists entering Mexico are now automatically given the full 180 day visa. Previously, it was at the discretion of the immigration agent to decide on how many days, with 90 being most common.
What does this mean? Well, you save 21 dollars and a trip to the airport or a migra office when you come in for more than three months. |
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corporatehuman
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Guy why are they doing this? It is great. But I don't get it. Is it because they were being overloaded with tourist visa renewals? Don't they want the money? |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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When I arrived here in September, I was pleasantly surprised to receive 180 days on my tourist care without any problems. In fact, since on a previous occasion I had been given only 30 days, I asked very politely if I could have 90; the agent didn't seem to pay any attention to my request and just wrote 180 on my card. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Agents could be real nasty if they wanted to be in the past. I saw one poor girl get 10 days on a visa even after showing her return ticket for weeks later.
Not sure why the change came about. Several people over the last couple of months have been telling me they got 180 at the airport, and today my friend in immigration confirmed the change in policy. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Agents could be real nasty if they wanted to be in the past. I saw one poor girl get 10 days on a visa even after showing her return ticket for weeks later. |
Wow, that's really mean! I've never had an agent be openly nasty like that to me, but I can't recall any that were particularly pleasant either. At least, this is one area of Mexican officialdom where people won't be able to play power games with jet-lagged tourists any more! |
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kosherpickle
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 93
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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in my experience the agents in mexico are a whole lot less nosey(though just as rushed and busy, though that in itself does not mean rudeness to me) than the united states agents, the next time i head back and they ask me what specific pleasure i was seeking in mexico, i just may give them a very naughty answer.
as far as how many days i've been allowed, i have always asked for 180 and been given it without even a second glance. |
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GueroPaz
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 216 Location: Thailand or Mexico
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, if we're telling lifetime stories about tourist visas and inmigracion officers.... I could tell some amazing stories about human rights observers in Chiapas, after the Acteal massacre, being given five or seven days, and how I had to enter way down at Tekal Uman to get 90 days. Or, how we nearly got deported, and some really nasty ladies in two of the inmigracion offices in Chiapas, or my 4.5 hour interrogation, or getting pulled off a first class bus between Comitan and San Cristobal, or the illegal checkpoints in the conflict area, or the officer who asked us if we knew a certain founder of the Anabaptist movement in 1525, or the names of the mesa directiva of Las Abejas..... But that was then and there. Glad to hear they've gotten better.
I'm almost tempted to get one of those six month tourist visas if I come back, but I think I'll start with an FM2/FM3 rentista visa from Houston consulate. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm wondering now if the policy change is applied at all ports of entry. It seems to be true at the DF and GDL airports, but I'm not sure about land crossings, or resort areas. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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This change by Calderon was announced months ago, but it still is not automatic in many places. They are still asking tourists arriving here how long they are staying. (I overheard a couple whimpering the other day that they only got 60 days but were staying till April). The snowbirds who come every year for the winter always ask for 180 days and are granted that at the airport, but if they don't ask....it's not automatic. For it to be automatic, I suspect the forms would need to change and that blank box would have to be eliminated.  |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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corporatehuman wrote: |
Guy why are they doing this? It is great. But I don't get it. Is it because they were being overloaded with tourist visa renewals? Don't they want the money? |
I assume that they assume that tourists will drop more money in Mexico than they would make on the renewals. For example many snow birds might want to stay 4 months, but maybe they didn't want to go through the "hassle" of renewing so just stayed three in the past. I imagine it will also make it easier for students to just use a tourist visa--which of course it technically illegal but many countries do it. I was a student in Chile on a tourist visa, Chile also gave 90 days, and I left the country once to renew it. Most semester abroad programs are 4 months long. Students on these programs spend LOADS of money in Mexico. I also remember Calderon's speach saying something about business travellers.
In a way it seems to encourage more people to just use a tourist visa, rather than getting FM3/2s. Which I guess overall makes it easier for people to travel to Mexico. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. Some other Latin American countries are going the other way, at least for American visitors, in that they're making it more costly for a tourist visa. $100 us in Chile and Brazil now, which is a tit-for-tat action, and I think Bolivia was going the same route. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the bit from El Universal back in March after Calderon announced his intention for the FMT's. I chuckled at the bit that says tourists "have to go to a special office...." Special indeed.
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El Universal
Jueves 29 de marzo de 2007
President Felipe Calder�n said Wednesday that he will make it easier for foreigners to stay longer as he seeks to promote tourism and business investment.
Speaking in Acapulco, the granddad of Mexican tourist resorts, Calder�n said tourists would automatically get permission to stay for 180 days, and the process to get visas to stay for years would be fast tracked. Under the present rules, most tourists are given up to 90 days to stay in Mexico and have to go to a special office to get that extended.
"I believe in tourism because it�s the economic activity that is going to bring Mexico the most profit and generate the most jobs," Calder�n said. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
Speaking in Acapulco, the granddad of Mexican tourist resorts, Calder�n said tourists would automatically get permission to stay for 180 days, and the process to get visas to stay for years would be fast tracked. Under the present rules, most tourists are given up to 90 days to stay in Mexico and have to go to a special office to get that extended.
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I'm more interested in the underlined part of Calder�n's speech. Could this mean that the process of getting an FM-3 will be expedited? |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I have to imagine Calderon is thinking about retirees. In Acapulco, there is massive development of time shares and condominiums likely targeting foreign interest. This is the biggest group of foreigners that seeks visas in this country. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately for me, that makes sense. Why expedite "tr�mites" for someone like me who wants to earn money here rather than just spend lots of dollars I bring with me? Though I will also be spending my Social Security pension money in Mexico, so maybe that will help speed things along when I finally start the process after the New Year. |
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