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chaz47
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 157
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: Talk about your job... |
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I'm curious about the different work situations in Japan. Please type a bit about your job.
What kind of job is it?
>private converation school, public school job, university, etc.?
What are you paid?
What are your accomodations like and does your school offer you an allowance for them?
How far do you commute and does your school assist you with travel expenses?
How many days of holiday do you get? Are they public holidays or personal vacation days?
Did they sponsor your visa?
How much are you paid?
Are you happy?
Thanks for your input. I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed in another thread. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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If you are fishing for something related to your own qualifications, why not just tell us? Answers you get with such a general blanket question may not even apply to you.
I also wouldn't hold my breath waiting for people to divulge their salaries. |
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chaz47
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 157
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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^ I'm not necessarily asking for sensitive information, does that actually include salary?
I'm asking for some comparative data. I have experience in Korea and I know what to expect from a standard public school contract, university contract, and a private conversation school contract.
In Korea we get a pitiful vacation, only 10 days at a stretch if we're lucky. The standard pay is such and such... etc.
I am trying to send out some feelers to understand what I might expect over there. My qualifications are a BA, 2.5 years of EFL experience (adults one to one and classes of children). I'll do an online EFL certification during winter break. I speak basic Japanese and know about 400 or so Chinese characters. I'm slightly genki. My blood type is B+.
Would anyone care to rate my potential earnings and benefits?
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Talk about your job... |
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I'm going to respond but I doubt that you will get enough responses to get a clear picture. I'm going to give details from two employers to add scope. It has to be said that is my experience and in no way typical or necessarily what you will find.
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What kind of job is it?
>private converation school, public school job, university, etc.? |
job 1: private kinder/ childcare centre.
job 2: suburban, non-chain eikawa
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What are you paid? |
money? yen? a living wage? Thankfully not actual peanuts...
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What are your accomodations like and does your school offer you an allowance for them? |
job 1: 2LDK furnished apartment provided and subsidised by the company
job 2: as above
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How far do you commute and does your school assist you with travel expenses? |
job 1: half hour train ride/walk, 3 month train ticket paid for
job 2: 3 min walk but school gave me a car for personal use, I pay all expenses
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How many days of holiday do you get? Are they public holidays or personal vacation days? |
job 1: 20 days plus public holidays
job 2: 9 weeks total
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Did they sponsor your visa? |
jobs 1& 2: of course
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How much are you paid? |
job 1: more than 250K
job 2: more than 300K plus extra classes
job 1: generally but more happy that I'm not there anymore
job 2: Yes |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not necessarily asking for sensitive information, does that actually include salary? |
Yes, for some people, that is pretty personal and private info.
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I'm asking for some comparative data. I have experience in Korea and I know what to expect from a standard public school contract, university contract, and a private conversation school contract. |
Ok, now we have something to go on.
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My qualifications are a BA, 2.5 years of EFL experience (adults one to one and classes of children). |
Well, that is not enough to get a full-time job in any of the above places, with the following exceptions:
public schools often hire ALTs, whether through JET programme or dispatch agencies.
universities will sometimes take part-timers with your qualifications, but that won't be enough to make you eligible for a work visa.
So, either look into ALT work or eikaiwa jobs (conversation schools). However, if you are in Korea right now, the pickings will be very slim, as few to no employers here recruit in Korea. You might get a phone interview, but that's all, and those are pretty limited in their quality, IMO. You're going to have to come here or return to your home country. Go home and you have about a dozen places that recruit from Japan; come here and you open many more doors of opportunity, but you have to come at the right time. Nov to Jan is terrible for job hunting.
After a year here in the above-mentioned entry level jobs, you will be considered experienced enough for public or private schools, maybe even enough for PT university work.
Someone had an online "poll" about private HS jobs a while back on another forum. You might want to look at the questions and answers here. http://www.eltnews.com/community/?board=jobs;action=display;num=1163688534;start=
University salaries and benefits will vary with many factors. Since you aren't really qualified for full-time uni work, I don't really think there is much point to listing even general info on them. |
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gaijin4life
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Westside of the Eastside, Japan
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Talk about your job... |
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[quote]I'm curious about the different work situations in Japan. Please type a bit about your job.
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What kind of job is it?
>private converation school, public school job, university, etc.?
- other
What are you paid?
- standard rate plus bonuses etc.
What are your accomodations like and does your school offer you an allowance for them?
- pretty good / yes.
How far do you commute and does your school assist you with travel expenses?
- not far / yes.
How many days of holiday do you get? Are they public holidays or personal vacation days?
- the usual (3wks)
Did they sponsor your visa?
- yes.
Are you happy? |
- mostly, I enjoy the job. |
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Wintermute
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Talk about your job... |
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I'll bite if you resize your avatar, it's too big.
What kind of job is it?
Two part time jobs and private lessons.
What are you paid?
Not going to say other than I'm making what I did at Nova (which was quite a lot) but working half as many hours.
What are your accomodations like and does your school offer you an allowance for them?
I found my own apartment, what everyone should do. In my experience you simply can't trust a company who holds your lease to do the right thing.
How far do you commute and does your school assist you with travel expenses?
Longest commute I have is an hour (but the pay is great). Travel is paid by the PT jobs but I have to pay my own way for the privates. That said I am entitled to a tax deduction next year given it is business expense (I declare my private money).
How many days of holiday do you get? Are they public holidays or personal vacation days?
As many or as few as I want.
Did they sponsor your visa?
Planning to self-sponsor.
How much are you paid?
You asked this already.
Are you happy?
Extremely. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Talk about your job... |
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Well, since this is for science and has never been covered before in any forum anywhere...
chaz47 wrote: |
I'm curious about the different work situations in Japan. Please type a bit about your job.
What kind of job is it?
>private converation school, public school job, university, etc.?
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I own a chain of private language schools throughout Japan.
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What are you paid?
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Nothing. The smile of the learning child is more than enough.
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What are your accomodations like and does your school offer you an allowance for them?
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I do not have multiple houses so I do not have "accomodations". I've always wondered: why do Americans say that?
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How far do you commute and does your school assist you with travel expenses?
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Twelve miles a day. Uphill. Both ways. And, t'wer luxury, I tell 'ya!
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alicat_blue
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 24 Location: San Francsico
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I really like your avatar, it is very good Engrish. Here is a straight up answer about my working conditions. I make around 250,000 yen which I think is pretty standard for not having taught in Japan before. I had to pay for my flight over here. The school sponsored my visa. I teach children all the way up to adults. I work about nine hours a day monday through friday. The school actually pays for my apartment which I understand is kind of rare. Hmmm, what else? I guess that's all folks. Just do yourself a favor and don't work at a big chain school. The pay is low, the hours are high and the working conditions suck. |
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Talk about your job... |
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G Cthulhu wrote: |
I do not have multiple houses so I do not have "accomodations". I've always wondered: why do Americans say that?
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From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
Main Entry: ac�com�mo�da�tion
Function: noun
Date: 1603
1: something supplied for convenience or to satisfy a need: as a: lodging, food, and services or traveling space and related services �usually used in plural <tourist accommodations on the boat><overnight accommodations>
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
accommodation
noun [U] MAINLY UK
a place to live, work, stay, etc. in:
There's a shortage of cheap accommodation (= places to live).
We have first and second class accommodation (= seats) on this flight.
accommodations
plural noun US
a place to stay when you are travelling, especially a hotel room:
Sweepstakes winners will enjoy a week-long stay in luxury accommodations in Las Vegas.
I guess Americans say 'accommodations' because it's in their dictionaries and because of its common usage.
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