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imagbe1



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: teaching2engineering Reply with quote

I have a degree in engineering (US). I have been teaching in the Middle East for 5 years but slowly becoming discouraged. Anyone have some advice about getting into IT/engineering here in the UAE?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if an English teaching board has many people who are familiar with the ins and outs of getting an IT/Engineering job in the UAE.

The problem with IT is that the majority of jobs are filled by graduates from the sub-continent, who will accept lower salaries. Most of the engineering professors that I met around the Gulf were from various Arab countries which turn out thousands of engineering graduates each year which suggest that many of the engineers are likely Arab. Speaking Arabic may be a job requirement?? (or Urdu or Hindi?)

The American or British trained engineers that I met had been hired from their home countries by Western companies (usually oil companies, of course). These men were usually older and had worked in engineering all their lives.

The local papers may have some ads. Also, search the web for jobs and beware of employment agencies as most are scams. As soon as they ask for money to even take your CV, you know that you will probably never hear from them again.

Your personal information is slim, but you might be better off getting a more advanced degree in Engineering/IT to be able to move up the academic ladder or an MA in TEFL if that is what you are teaching.

Good Luck...

VS
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Afra



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HCT teaches both IT and engineering. You don't say what your specialisation is but there may be something to suit you as mechanical, electrical and civil engineering are taught in various colleges as well as mechatronics. Teachers are employed from many countries.
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MrScaramanga



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on, Afra. HCT IT faculty members and support staff are from all over, and speaking Arabic is definitely not a requirement. Speaking English is!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read his message that he wants to get out of teaching and into actual IT or Engineering work.

I agree that he would probably be better off trying to get into teaching it with a place like HCT. The universities require PhDs in the fields though... what about HCT? Do they have IT and engineering teachers with only a BA? (our OP doesn't say how advanced or not his degree is...)

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MrScaramanga



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HCT does not require a PhD to teach IT. Also, I meant that OP could work at HCT as IT tech/engineer, not teacher necessarily.
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Afra



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some teachers have BA/BSc but there has been pressure from time to time to get MAs. There are also some with PHDs. If they want you . . .
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imagbe1



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses. I have a BS degree in electrical engineering. I have considered getting a masters degree but I have ruled out a masters in education due to the time involved and expense in attaining it. Plus, where would I use it? In schools that will prevent from implementing what I have learned?
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Afra



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A number of HCT teachers are doing or have done Ed Tech Masters by distance from one of the Australian universities - South Queensland, maybe.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imagbe1 wrote:
Plus, where would I use it? In schools that will prevent from implementing what I have learned?

The reasons for getting an MA or a PhD are normally in order to get better teaching positions and make more money. It is a piece of paper that the better employers want. Without them you will always be at the bottom rung of the education field.

As far an an MA in TEFL, I doubt that many (any?) of us actually changed our teaching style after getting one. But you will achieve the ability to make a living wage in the Gulf and actually save money.

Of course with the ability to work in IT or Engineering, you may have other options outside education. But, an advanced degree probably opens doors to better jobs in those fields too.

VS
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veralynn



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Petroluem Institute has an Electrical Engineering program.
Nearly all the lecturers there hold PhDs, but not all, so maybe worth a try.
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Iamherebecause



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petroleum Institute also employs techies to do pure techie stuff - I know one (former TEFLer, natch, who wanted out of the classroom)
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