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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but are there any jobs in Zacatecas City?


Beautiful city but very few jobs I'm afraid.

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"Small town Veracruz?" Are you referring to the puerto, with almost a million habitantes in the metro area? I notice that very few expatriates appear to be there (judging from these internet forums).


While I don't presume to speak for hlamb, something to get used to in Mexico...1 million people constitutes smaller town, for the most part.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[quote="hlamb
I actually find myself running into friends and acquintances more often in Cuernavaca than I ever did in small-town Veracruz. It seems like every time I'm in the centre I see someone I know. I don't pretend to know this city well but it feels a lot friendlier to me.
[/quote]

Unless Cuernavaca has grown enormously in the last few years, isn't it a much smaller city than Veracruz? Wouldn't that account for your running into friends there more often than you did in Veracruz?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuernavaca has 2 million doesn't it?
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure hlamb didn't live in the city of Veracruz, but a small-town in the state by that name.

I haven't answered this thread, because I'm a small town girl at heart. I've got everything I need right here. Very Happy

But I think Puebla might be well worth looking at for the OP (if you don't mind the cold that is!)
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reddevil79



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminded me of the fact that I never see Colima mentioned here. Not too big, bright, clean and some very good institutions in town. The heat is something else though... Embarassed
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are 2002 populations. Some of them surprised me then I realized that you have to join populations of municipios to get metropolitan population, for example - GDL, Tonal�, Zapopan, etc

M�xico, DF (Mexico City) 8,548,639
Ecatepec de Morelos, M�xico 1,969,858
Guadalajara, Jalisco 1,651,417
Tijuana, Baja California 1,465,649
Ciudad Ju�rez, Chihuahua 1,440,025
Puebla, Puebla 1,411,263
Nezahualc�yotl, M�xico 1,197,799
Le�n, Guanajuato 1,167,967
Zapopan, Jalisco 1,159,829
Monterrey, Nuevo Le�n 1,116,074
Naucalpan, M�xico 865,256
Mexicali, Baja California 855,962
Culiac�n, Sinaloa 793,504
Guadalupe, Nuevo Le�n 776,098
Chihuahua, Chihuahua 751,100
M�rida, Yucat�n 750,855
Acapulco, Guerrero 743,112
Canc�n, Quintana Roo 738,422
San Luis Potos�, San Luis Potos� 721,619
Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes 707,964
Tlalnepantla, M�xico 699,847
Chimalhuacan, M�xico 686,369
Quer�taro, Quer�taro 672,806
Saltillo, Coahuila 666,008
Morelia, Michoac�n 640,571
Hermosillo, Sonora 634,780
Tlaquepaque, Jalisco 624,745
Ciudad L�pez Mateos, M�xico 585,824
San Nicol�s de los Garza, Nuevo Le�n 573,111
Tuxtla Guti�rrez, Chiapas 569,345
Torre�n, Coahuila 559,376
Toluca, M�xico 528,127
Cuautitl�n, M�xico 509,114
Durango, Durango 484,079
Reynosa, Tamaulipas 483,599
Tonal�, Jalisco 452,555
Veracruz, Veracruz 450,894
Matamoros, Tamaulipas 446,398
Ciudad Apodaca, Nuevo Le�n 433,751
Xalapa, Veracruz 432,974
Villahermosa, Tabasco 397,616
Irapuato, Guanajuato 373,381
Cuernavaca, Morelos 373,256
Mazatl�n, Sinaloa 370,919
Valle de Chalco, M�xico 355,568
Xico, M�xico 355,568
General Escobedo, Nuevo Le�n 352,974
Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas 343,220
Ixtapaluca, M�xico 334,688
Celaya, Guanajuato 328,344
Coacalco, M�xico 324,384
Tepic, Nayarit 308,568
Tampico, Tamaulipas 302,655
Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas 287,235
Ciudad Santa Catarina, Nuevo Le�n 286,061
Oaxaca, Oaxaca 284,539
Pachuca, Hidalgo 278,474
Ciudad Obreg�n, Sonora 278,119
Los Reyes la Paz, M�xico 263,828
Uruapan, Michoac�n 262,817
Villa Nicol�s Romero, M�xico 261,969
Ensenada, Baja California 260,544
Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz 260,951
Tehuac�n, Puebla 258,698
Buenavista, Baja California 250,682
G�mez Palacio, Durango 242,982
Los Mochis, Sinaloa 227,148
Monclova, Coahuila 218,744
Tapachula, Chiapas 216,235
Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco 212,821
Campeche, Campeche 210,496
Soledad 197,874
Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas 197,357
Nogales, Sonora 194,754
San Pablo 192,496
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting that Phil. I remember seeing something similar in 1996 and Neza was a little higher in the list, in the top 5 if I remember correctly, so the Mexico City area was actually made up of the country's 3 largest cities!
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuernavaca, Morelos 373,256

Whoop...smaller than I thought!

Edomex is the most populous state, though most of the people counted there contribute to the idea of 25,000,000 in neighbouring DF.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Cuernavaca has 2 million doesn't it?


I just checked a Lonely Planet from last year and several sources on Google and found figures ranging from 330,000 to 1 million - I guess the larger figure includes outlying municipios. It sure has grown from the small town I lived in during the summer of 1971!
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hlamb



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="GueroPaz]
"Small town Veracruz?" Are you referring to the puerto, with almost a million habitantes in the metro area? I notice that very few expatriates appear to be there (judging from these internet forums).

[/quote]

No, I lived in San Andres Tuxtla for a year. It wasn't a bad place and bigger than it appeared but it had a lot of small-town characteristics that I didn't like. Good experience but never again.
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cangringo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to throw in, don't go to Monterrey. The people who come from there for some reason say it's beautiful...it's not. It's big, industrial and there isn't much culture to be had. It's like two cities in one. The south is very modern and much more expensive an the north is more middle to lower class although you can't tell the difference from one house to the next. The heat is unbearable in the summer and it's very chilly in the winter. There is a lovely chemical smell that wafts over if you live in the north...not sure about the south. The pay is not great in comparison either.

The culture is very similar to a big American or Canadian city. It's very fast paced and if you don't learn to drive like a Monterreyan in a few days you could get yourself badly injured.

Just my two cents. Very Happy
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hlamb



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuernavaca feels a lot bigger than the listed number when I go to the suburbs or surrounding communities. It seems to take a long time to get out of the city. However, when I hang out in the centro or the colonias where I live and where my school is, I think it seems really small. I think one of the reasons I routinely run into people I know is that everyone seems to pass through the centro at some point and I also spend a lot of time there.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have the population of Mazatl�n listed almost the same as Cuernavaca and it also feels much larger here than those posted numbers. Doubling it would likely be more accurate for today's population. I doubt it was that low even in 2002. I wonder how they arrive at these numbers.
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GirlfromCanada



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: teaching experiences in queretaro Reply with quote

Hi there....Just came across this link on Google. It's about one teacher's experiences teaching in Queretaro. I've only done a quick scan but it looks like it may be helpful for you.

http://www.gypsyjournal.com/Journal.asp?JournalID=264

good luck!
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sickbag



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puebla - very cold and very hot depending on time of day/year, pretty good culturally, centro historico very pretty and not far from the coast. Big city though - definitely more than the figure above.

Personally, I liked Veracruz a lot - hot, sweaty and seedy (not sure what that says about me)

Toluca, as mentioned above, is a dump.

I liked Morelia too - seemed much cleaner than most cities in Mexico.
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