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312



Joined: 23 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha I slighlty got that impression too (slave-driver). But it's easy money for 60 hours - 10,000 RMB - in a town with virtually no cost of living. He really has a nice personality, but is a genuine shapeshifter. I had him include a clause in the contract that says he must pay me every week. So, if he can't pay after one week, he can expect a classroom full of disappointed students staring at the clock, and a certain foreign teacher leaving on a train, back to his back-up apartment, with a certain finger in the air Smile But I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Nauczyciel



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Location: www.commonwealth.pl

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

312 wrote:
You know there are differences in Chinese and American culture. In America, you judge the contract by its specific terms. In China, it's more flexible.

How typical - cultural differences are exploited to prove just anything that can bring profit and/or escape responsibility on the part of the employer Twisted Evil
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jwbhomer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nauczyciel wrote:
312 wrote:
You know there are differences in Chinese and American culture. In America, you judge the contract by its specific terms. In China, it's more flexible.

How typical - cultural differences are exploited to prove just anything that can bring profit and/or escape responsibility on the part of the employer Twisted Evil


It's quite true when it comes to business culture. A signed contract is only viewed by the Chinese as a starting point for further negotiation. Mad
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Nemesis



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, just draw a line in the sand. Tell him you're going home, and will prep in your own way.

And then walk out when classes end. Make a big show of packing up your stuff slowly. By the time you walk out the door, buddy will either flinch or snap.

Just like pulling off a bandage -- get it rectified quick.
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Nemesis



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If things get dicey, show anger and point aggressively -- right up in his face.



Dude will either crack or snap... Laughing
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Nemesis



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick it to the man!

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vikuk



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussie wrote-
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When we foreign teachers collectively put our foot down things will improve.

since in practice we are not organised as a collective group - one of the few ways we can influence is to comment - in here and all other forums - on all of that we find demeaning to the professional well-being of FT's.
Low wages, recruiting info on working in China that doesn't hold true at ground-zero, illegal work situations and all forms of exploitation - must head the list.
Don't be lazy - telling the truth about this job can only be a good thing for the China FT - after all this industry seems to fueled by the naive who're willing to work for peanuts while their bosses are harvesting gold Idea
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malu



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I came here I tried buying into that urban myth that getting irate in China would get you nowhere and you would just lose face, that gentle and polite negotiation would result in a harmonious solution.

Since being here I have discovered that we gweilo have no face to lose in the first place and the only way I have ever succeeded in unblocking administrative log-jams or dealing with shape-shifters (love that term!) is by getting bloody belligerent and unreasonable. It is the only strategy that works. I hate doing it, and there must be a sizeable chunk of our administration that think I'm a horrid old ogre, but it's only their fear of my wrath that makes them think twice before screwing me over.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is the only strategy that works. I hate doing it, and there must be a sizeable chunk of our administration that think I'm a horrid old ogre, but it's only their fear of my wrath that makes them think twice before screwing me over.

For many, this kind of strategy becomes such a china norm - that even when smell shafting through a post - we feel obliged to vent our wrath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TreKidation



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more appropriate to direct the venting of your wrath at the object/person in question. You can't change the system or the issue crying to others - face the issue head-on with whom you have issue. You may look like a complainer or burn some bridges, but at least you'll have some self-respect that you can face issues like an adult with some self-worth.

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vikuk



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You may look like a complainer or burn some bridges, but at least you'll have some self-respect that you can face issues like an adult with some self-worth
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This would be a great way of acting - if our employers also acted with some form of recognisable adult behaviour that recognised our personal worth - and didn't just seem to view us as $$$$$$$$$
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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a lot of these 40 hour a week jobs here and in Korea. They usually just want you in the office to show you off to the clientelle. I didn't have to do much work. It was easy for me. You spend your time studying Chinese or whatever else you would be doing at home. Working in universities means less hours but sometimes their is stess there also. I had a student who went to the students in my other classes to find complaints about me this year. He was constantly stopping me and making suggestions on how I should teach my classes.
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Mydnight



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't want you to do office hours for any specific reason. In Metro the FT's office is right in the front with HUGE glass windows so everyone can look at the laowai pretending to be busy. They basically want you to do office hours so you can be seen by students and help them with English if anything goes wrong.

Planning Oral English classes really don't take that much time especially after you've got experience. Them wanting you to just sit there and do nothing is just their fun way to show and pretend that they have control. This is the true cultural difference that everyone talks about. They like to think they have control over you and can ask you to do anything and then expect you to do it without question.
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TreKidation



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask for advertising, modeling, display payments ...
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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They basically want you to do office hours so you can be seen by students and help them with English if anything goes wrong.


Quite true....


**ALERT**ALERT**ALERT**THIS IS AN ENGLISH ALERT***

(over the school intercom)

"Precious Wang Lei, student number 200394, studying IELTS to enter university in Australia where he will major in Accounting and bring glory to the Motherland, is having difficulties with his collocationary organ. Seeking immediate, free assistance. This is an emergency, I repeat, Wang Lei, student number 200394, is unable to properly collate. Degree critical. He's spewing sentences like "China is a beautiful country". There is no sky today! Only haze! I repeat, this is an emergency. Wang Lei, student number 200..."


(Mr. Lee storms into the teachers' pen)

"Andy, teacher Andy, you s.o.b.! Get down to number 13 classroom immediately, and bring with you those collocation worksheets and a dictionary. Wang Lei only has three minutes left to master the lexical skills necessary for a band seven. His family's driver is already parked outside the building!!! Hurry!!!! If Wang Lei doesn't get his score, it's your white ass that I'll be thrashing before porking xiao jie at the saunas tonight. Move, move, move, move!!!"




Happens all the time to those who allow it to happen.
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