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[tuneintokyo]

I've been a teacher almost four years and I have taught ESL in Korea the last year. What sort of salary is to be expected my first year in China? What sort of taxes will I be paying?

[Anda]

Let�s see you have no degree and have taught illegally on a tourist visa at institutes for four years.

You are a level one English teacher working for the EPIK program and have been at the same foreign language high school for four years.

Or perhaps you have worked at Seoul National University where you were the head foreign language teacher who was in charge of the curriculum.


Where do you want to teach in China? Are you going to volunteer? What hours are you prepared to work? What type of students do you want to teach? Do you want to work in a big city or a smaller country city? Do you want to teach privates?


If you want a general reply then you can expect to earn about 20% of what you are now earning. Food is cheaper here and things like a massage or a haircut are much cheaper. So you can live well here but buying a lot of stuff like a good computer or a car are things that you will find difficulty with here on the wages.

[kev7161]

Anda, you must know this person as you state he has no degree, but the title asks how much can he earn with a Bachelor's Degree. So, I'm a little confused. OP, you've been what kind of teacher for 4 years? "Spoken English"? High School level? Primary? College? I know our school is (still) looking for a primary teacher who has an education degree/background and the starting salary is very good by Chinese standards (I mean, easily double what a lot of people say they earn here). But that candidate REALLY needs to know his/her way around a classroom - - that's where the difficulty of finding someone suitable comes in.

[Anda]

Too early in the morning! I missed the heading while answering the request. But there is a lack of detail as to what kind of teaching he has done in Korea. Working for say an institute where the curriculum has been supplied or places where you have a Korean teacher with you in class to assist with control plus the teaching, doesn't make for much of a reference.

Working in a University or public school where you have prepared your own teaching material and taught without help is a better guide.

The better money here in China seems to be for teaching elementary students but that requires that you have the ability to work with small children.

[therock]

Don't expect too much, you will be looking at the starter salary which is in the 4000 to 6000RMB range. If money is a concern stay in Korea.

[tuneintokyo]

I taught highschool math and English for 3 years in the states, and I have been teaching grammar, reading, and conversation to all levels in a private academy in Korea for about a year now, since money is important to me. Maybe Taiwan would be a good bet for me. It's kinda Chinese, right?

[TreKidation]

What is the honest reason that you don't continue to teach multiple subjects back home (in the States) if money is so important?

[tuneintokyo]

bored with the culture there / a desire to travel and live in other countries

[Moon Over Parma]

If you have a legit teaching degree you can find work at international schools that pay more than a hogwon and more than a starter salary in the EPIK program. Of course, many of those opportunities may be asking you to perform the same, full-time hours as back home. You have to look for these positions. I'm surprised you haven't looked for work teaching at the military bases in Korea. There is serious money to be made there, too, and with benefits that you won't receive from Korean schools, etc.

[ontheroadagain]

How much can you make with a bachelors degree? The same as with Ph. D!

[jeffinflorida]

[malu]

[phantombedwetter]

[Anda]

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200603/olympics

The 2008 Olympics, the first ever to be held in China, will be a similar exercise in politics by other means, starting with a battle for prestige: after the Americans dominated at the Athens games in 2004, China and Russia agreed to cooperate to best America in Beijing. The official Chinese goal is to win 110 medals�seven more than the United States won in Athens. To this end China and Russia will exchange coaches and share training methods and facilities. (Chinese Olympic organizers have promised that in return for Moscow�s assistance they will instruct Chinese fans to cheer for Russian athletes at any event in which no Chinese athlete is competing.) In 2004 China�s sports minister, Yuan Weimin, told U.S. Olympic Committee Chairman Peter Ueberroth before the Athens games, �Don�t worry�we will not topple you. But we are making this effort.�

What may turn out to be of far greater concern than medal counts, however, is the possibility of war�specifically, between China and Taiwan. Why? Because Taiwanese leaders may gamble that the 2008 Olympics will provide them with their best chance to declare formal independence from the mainland. With the world�s spotlight trained on Beijing, they may reason, China might not attack, as it has vowed to do in the event of such a declaration. After all, military conflict would jeopardize the games and create an international embarrassment for China. Moreover, it would drive investors away and possibly lead to economic sanctions that would damage China�s flourishing economy. The danger, of course, is that Taiwan will act and Beijing will carry out its threat despite the costs.

[DistantRelative]

Anda- With regards to the first paragraph of your post, I would say the US isn't all that concerned about medal counts, and in the spirit of friendship is working with the Chinese to help develop their budding baseball talent prior to the games.