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elp



Joined: 15 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Can I legally teach? Reply with quote

Is there anywhere I can legally teach without having my degree?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: China Reply with quote

Dear elp
I would suggest posting on the China Forum.
Regards,
John
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can legally teach without a degree in Central/Eastern Europe.

That said, you would be competing against 99% of teachers who do have a degree. You would need a very credible certification (CELTA or equivalent, no short course or on-line course would offset the lack of degree, except in some really bottom-of-the-barrel situation), and you would have to present yourself as highly professional and reliable - and follow through on that.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can legally teach English in Indonesia if you have a passport from the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or the UK.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some informative sites:

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/listings/work/esl/articles/workinasia.shtml

http://www.jobmonkey.com/teaching/asia/html/job_search_in_indonesia.html

By the way, having taught for 2 years in Indonesia, I can highly recommend it - great country, great people.

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/publications/magazine/0409/teaching_english_in_thailand_step_by_step.shtml

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/latin-america/index.pl?noframes;read=95

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John
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much of Latin America would accept a TEFL certificate as proper documentation, without the degree.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some ASian coutnries and Latin American countries
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you meet the requirements for a working holiday visa, yes, but only for a year.

In Japan, a work visa can be obtained without a degree if you have 3 or more years of teaching experience. You don't need a degree or experience to teach on a student visa, cultural visa, dependent visa, spouse visa, or permanent resident status, but you have to meet the requirements for those situations.
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jwbhomer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Position of the adverb???? English teachers????
Is "legally teaching" like "boldly going"?
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Slat

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Dear elp
I would suggest posting on the China Forum.
Regards,
John


What kind of wise-crack is that? Use thinking wes gots no standards!

You jar heads. Me was in the Air Farce! We got ourselves goodly standard here. china law people sez so we do. Wantum work in China, must one have one a degree, so ses law in China (har ahr)
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: I agree - to a degree Reply with quote

Dear arioc36,
My apologies - I knew I would catch some flak from at least a few "old China hands" for that suggestion of mine.
The implication was, perhaps, unfortunate; I know there are many very well-qualified EFL teachers working in China. In fact, a good friend of mine has been over there for about 4 years, teaching at university.
However, as we both know (and as the tenor of your witty posting suggests). there are also a fair number of English teaching positions in China where the only two conditions for employment are 1. being a "native speaker" and 2. breathing (and I think you can get a waiver on the second.)
Regards,
John
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
By the way, having taught for 2 years in Indonesia, I can highly recommend it - great country, great people.

Yes, indeed - just stay away from the smoggy cesspool that is Jakarta!
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elp



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnslat- Those are some really good links, Thanks!

Thanks for the advice guys, it's been helpful!
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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there are also a fair number of English teaching positions in China where the only two conditions for employment are 1. being a "native speaker" and 2. breathing (and I think you can get a waiver on the second.)
Laughing Laughing

most likely a waiver for both, if you have blonde hair and blue eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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kingmalka



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Can I legally teach? Reply with quote

elp wrote:
Is there anywhere I can legally teach without having my degree?


Just make a fake one, or lie that you own one.

I have seen some excellent HS Diploma teachers, and some terrible BA teachers. Most schools just like hearing the words "college-educated".
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