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Do you find tiring to teach as a PNET?

 
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atatat



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Do you find tiring to teach as a PNET? Reply with quote

I don't know if it's just me, I am feeling tired everyday after work! I have 6-8 lessons almost everyday where I have to teach non-stoppingly during that lesson or double-lessons. Especially that I'm teaching P1 and P2, it requires a lot of energy controlling the students, acting out meanings, doing role-plays, story-tellings, phonics , running here and there in the classroom... etc etc.. you just can't slow down or pause! Once you're in the classroom, it's just like a show has started.. you've to go on and on until the very last minuite, otherwise the local teacher who you're co-teaching with will think your lesson is not good enough! They expect ALL of your lessons are fun and interesting. What's worse is that when there's no break between classes.. Like last time I had to play Scavenger hunt in the playgruond with 3 different classes a day (as well as other lessons in between) . I'm exhausted everyday. How about you guys?
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anninhk



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are a PNET on the EDB scheme then you are teaching too many periods at 6-8 per day. The maximum number is supposed to be 28!If you are being asked to do things at recess and lunch time make sure you are also given preparation time and time for co-planning.

You should get on to your AT straight away and make sure you get them reduced. You should be co-teaching too and not just taking all the lessons yourself.
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Horizontal Hero



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you are doing too much. You have to learn to pace yourself as a teacher. You can't go flat out all day. You may need to set some boundaries with your managers - i.e. learn to say "no". If you set a precedent of doing everything you are asked, soon you will be carrying the whole school on your back. If indeed you are a PNET in the NET scheme, yo have a rough deal. Many PNETs have an easy job - as little as 12 hours of teaching a week in some cases, and many I have spoken to complain not of too much work, but of the boredom of sitting around doing nothing for long hours every day.
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Lao Wai



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

For me, as a previous poster had stated, boredom was probably one of the major issues I had and was one of the reasons I didn't re-sign after my first contract came to an end. I taught about 3-4 classes a day and was SO BORED with all of that extra time. I tried to do other things (fix up the English room, change bulletin boards, etc.) but these things still never ate up my time. I used to offer to 'pull out' students for reading recovery etc, but the locals wouldn't go for it. If the PNET Scheme taught me one thing about myself, it's that I like to keep busy. Near the end of my contract, I didn't even bother trying to hide my blatant internet surfing.

For the OP: A few times I was asked to do certain things that I felt were pointless, like going to a huge PD session in Cantonese. I spoke up to my Principal and explained my point of view in a rational manner. She couldn't really find fault in my argument. So, she let it go. Talk to your AT or your principal. It can't hurt!
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Smoog



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with both Lao Wai and atatat here.
It's boring and tiring.

Like atatat says, the lessons I do do (which are few and far between at times) are very tiring because a 100% performance is expected in each one. We're not given the chance to just have an easy time those days where we really don't feel much like being here, but aren't sick enough to warrant taking a day off. ESL teaching is the most stressful teaching I've ever done because you don't have the opportunity to just relax.

The biggest stress I feel is your classes not being your own class. You're not allowed to do exactly what you want to do with it. It's frustrating, stressful and disheartening to continually hit the brick wall that is the local teachers concepts of teaching.
example - P4 class topic recently was on recycling, reusing, reducing. Far too hard for this low-ability class. I suggested (and wrote out detailed lesson plans) we get them into groups, have them recycle newspaper into writing paper (a very easy task to do), and then produce a project display board detailing the steps they went through (with photos), their end result and reasons why we should recycle. Covered everything in the textbook, but did so in a practical interesting way.
What happened? I showed the plans to the Local Teacher who read through them and said, "But we need to get through the textbook first. After the exam (which was 6 weeks away, so way after this topic) if we have time, we might do this. But it'll have to take just one lesson."
So that was a total waste of my time there - and being knocked back like that (which happens with nearly everything I suggest that is outside the realms of the all-important textbook) just saps the life and energy right out of me.

And of course there's those days where you have to get up early (I'm up at 6.30am at the latest) to come into school knowing there is absolutely nothing for you to do all day due to exams or some outside event/activity you don't have to participate in. Even though they know you'll be sitting there the entire day bored sh*tless, you're not allowed to arrive late nor leave early. In NZ, Wednesday afternoons I had free - I just told the secretary I was leaving and that was that. No problem whatsoever. It's this strict enforcing of pointless, abirtary rules designed to do nothing else but control and intimidate you which causes a great deal of stress.
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atatat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(double posted by accident Embarassed )

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atatat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoog wrote:

Like atatat says, the lessons I do do (which are few and far between at times) are very tiring because a 100% performance is expected in each one. We're not given the chance to just have an easy time those days where we really don't feel much like being here, but aren't sick enough to warrant taking a day off. ESL teaching is the most stressful teaching I've ever done because you don't have the opportunity to just relax.


Yes! THis is what exactly I'm talking about. Don't you think it's like you're in a show? You HAVE to arouse the kids' interests and make them feel your lesson is fun, otherwise the local teacher would think you're "not teaching well". BUT the locals themselves have NEVER had a fun lesson with their classes. They'll just waste time on giving homework, punishing studnets during lesson time when they dont feel like teaching that day! How fair is that! For many times, I see local teachers just sitting at their desks, teaching nothing, waiting for the class to end... Mad

Smoog wrote:
And of course there's those days where you have to get up early (I'm up at 6.30am at the latest) to come into school knowing there is absolutely nothing for you to do all day due to exams or some outside event/activity you don't have to participate in. Even though they know you'll be sitting there the entire day bored sh*tless, you're not allowed to arrive late nor leave early. In NZ, Wednesday afternoons I had free - I just told the secretary I was leaving and that was that. No problem whatsoever. It's this strict enforcing of pointless, abirtary rules designed to do nothing else but control and intimidate you which causes a great deal of stress.


Yes yes yesss!!! Crying or Very sad
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Serious_Fun



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoog wrote:
example - P4 class topic recently was on recycling, reusing, reducing. Far too hard for this low-ability class.


Cool I do a bit of tutoring of a P4 student - a great little character - who recently had the Recycle/Reuse/Reduce unit to work on...it really was difficult for him. We ended up doing up something similar to what you had designed, although it was easy for me since this tutoring took place in his home.

I can imagine how the unit was not clear in the classroom...
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Horizontal Hero



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do find it a bit starnge people saying they have nothing to do and are bored. Why not invest that time doing something you really love to do? Study a language? Enrol in a masters/phd degree. Write a book. Read a book, fiction or non-fiction. I use whatever spare time I have in my job writing books, articles, and studying Chinese. I got a PhD that way, too.

Oh, and I'd LOVE to have exam periods where I had nothing to do all day. My exam period finished this last Friday, and it was exhausting. They had me on every oral exam in the school, plus regular exams - up to four exams a day, and seven hours of invigilation. One day I had seven hours of invigilation, taught a double lesson of Form 7 (not on exams) and had to keep working on entering exams in the sever. Thank Jesus the exams are over, I say!
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hkteach



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one who is both tired and bored. Bored because there's no challenge to the job and I have a LOT of free time. Tired because I still have to sit there for eight hours a day no matter what and need to get up early to get there.

On teachers' PD days and school sports days, I stay at school.

It was exam time at my school recently and there was no marking or supervision for me.
The week before exams it was revision week so I didn't teach. The week after exams was exam review and special activities so no teaching for me. Since returning after Christmas I've taught SIX lessons.
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Lao Wai



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horizontal Hero wrote:
I do find it a bit starnge people saying they have nothing to do and are bored. Why not invest that time doing something you really love to do? Study a language? Enrol in a masters/phd degree. Write a book. Read a book, fiction or non-fiction. I use whatever spare time I have in my job writing books, articles, and studying Chinese. I got a PhD that way, too.

Oh, and I'd LOVE to have exam periods where I had nothing to do all day. My exam period finished this last Friday, and it was exhausting. They had me on every oral exam in the school, plus regular exams - up to four exams a day, and seven hours of invigilation. One day I had seven hours of invigilation, taught a double lesson of Form 7 (not on exams) and had to keep working on entering exams in the sever. Thank Jesus the exams are over, I say!



You're right, of course. However, I just found that being a PNET sapped me of any energy or ambition that I used to have. The job was just so dreary and soulless. I'm now back in Canada working as a substitute teacher. I teach all day and then, a few days out of the week, go to the free PD courses the district offers in the evenings (which are actually RELEVANT). I now have so much more energy even though I work twice as much as I did in the PNET Scheme. I'm also considering taking French lessons to improve my French.

I also hated the fact that I never felt ownership over my lessons or classes (as a previous poster stated). The first year of my contract, almost all of my ideas were shot down. Luckily, during my second year, almost all of the local English teachers were new. So, I could do more of my own thing.

Good luck to those who are still fighting the good fight!
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Smoog



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hkteach wrote:
It was exam time at my school recently and there was no marking or supervision for me.
The week before exams it was revision week so I didn't teach. The week after exams was exam review and special activities so no teaching for me. Since returning after Christmas I've taught SIX lessons.

snap.
I've had exactly the same experience as you, possibly moreso.
I take 2 classes - a P3 and a P6 class, co-teaching all lessons.
For the last 3 months there's been a teacher trainee here who has taken the P3 class - thus my teaching load dropped by 1/2.
In December, P6 had exams then went to China on a 2 day trip. So no lessons there for pretty much entire month.
Trainee finally left this month, but it mattered not one wit: Exams for P3-P5.
Last week was the first time in 3 months that I've had a full teaching load.
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11:59



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
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Horizontal Hero



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And these guys are looking for pay parity? If it comes I'm on the next ship over to PNET territory.
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Smoog



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

11:59 wrote:
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!

Usually I try not to, but:
1. It's so damn frustrating doing nothing, being ignored and having all my ideas shot down - ideas that I know would make learning a helluva lot more interesting and fun for the students as well as improve their dreadful English;
2. It always worries me that they'll notice I'm doing absolutely sod-all and start to wonder whether it's worth keepinh me on.
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