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[gth1]

The preamble:

The legalese 'PROCEDURE FOR GETTING A WORK PERMIT FOR FOREIGNERS' states in part:

The work application file stipulated in article 5.1 of Decree 105-2003-ND-CP shall be provided for as follows:

A foreign employee wishing to come to Vietnam to work shall submit two sets of his or her work application file to the employer, and each file set shall contain:

(b) Legal record issued by the authorized body of the country of residence of the foreign individual.

A VNese to English interpretation of the legalese is, quote, "Legal record is: Police clearance check issued by police department at the county where you currently resides."

Now fast froward to the FBI Website: Of the reports offered - NONE - are titled 'Legal record issued . . .' or 'Police clearance check'.

The FBI's site states a 'generic' lead time of 16-18 weeks for any report.

I don't want to wait 16-18 weeks to get started.

The questions:

1. What kind of report? Answered by FBI. See next post.
2. 16-18 weeks? FBI now says less than six weeks. See next post.
a. How long did it take you?
3. While waiting for the FBI report, could you teach/work in VN?
4. Once you rec'd the FBI report, in VN, could you meet the burearcratic demands of getting everything notarized, authenticated and sending it for the US Sec of State's blessings?
5. Any answers to questions I don't even know to ask?

Thanks for your time.

gth

Update as of this very moment: My private email source of 'PROCEDURE FOR GETTING A WORK PERMIT FOR FOREIGNERS' doc has just weighed in with the following . . . "The �country� using in Paragraph (b) of the document is a general word so that it can apply for people come from anywhere in the world . In case of American, the docs issued by the - county - (not country, with an 'r') would do. Hope this answers your question." (Note: bold print and and parentheses are by gth)

Comments anyone?

[gth1]

I emailed the FBI asking some of the same questions in my OP. I was surprised they replied by email in ~ 24 hours with the following, quote:

[gth1]

This is hard to believe bit it 'tis what it 'tis . . .

I mailed my FBI BC request on 01/29/08 and, including regular snail mail transit, rec'd the completed BC back on 02/14/08, or, in seventeen (17!) days!

Don't know if it helped any but here is what I did:
� FBI Request Form: From the FBI site you need to print and fill out a request form. On this form is a place for asking that you app be expedited. They guarantee nothing but you can ask. They ask for a reason why. They give you about 15 spaces to state the reason so I just put 'see attachment' and stated my reason on a separate sheet. I didn't try to BS them. First of all I told them, "Until 6-8 days ago I didn't even know I needed a BC and commented, 'Shame on me but there it is.'." Then I told them after receiving the BC back it had to wind its way through three other bureaucracies (State, Federal and Foreign) and hopefully returned to me by May 1, '08.
� Fingerprints: I printed three (3) forms from the FBI site and took it to my local police sub station. Of the three forms I sent in the best two. On the fingerprint form I had to 'fill in the blanks' with information. I did-not-do-this-freehand; I used a ruler. Makes everything crisp and easy to read. Strategy? If something 'hard to read' its easy put off dealing with it.
� Documents List: This was not requested/required but when dealing with a bureaucracy, in writing, I always make up a 'documents list', which informs the reader, item by item, of what is included in the package. Below is my documents list:

FBI CJIS Division � Record Request
1000 Custer Hollow Road
Clarksburg, West Virginia 26306

Re: Documents List

January 29, 2008

Dear Sir or Madam:

Enclosed please find the following:
� Cover letter with attachment
� Money order in the amount of eighteen dollars
� Two (2) completed fingerprint forms
� A request for a 'Letter of Procedure' regarding the FBI's policy to not notarize.

Thank you for your time and courtesy.

Sincerely,

Etc., etc., etc.

That's it. Hope it helps.

gth

PS � Just wish getting my dup University diploma was so efficient.

[rico4444]

ATTENTION GTH1....

I read your post and was wondering if you could tell me....for working in Vietnam, AFTER the FBI does the CBC, does it need to be notarized/apostillized at your residence state's Secretary of State office?

I'm in Korea now and I wanted to come to Vietnam after my contract expires in less than 3 months so I thought I should start the process now.

[gth1]

[rico4444]

Not simple. as you say, but your guidance is very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It'll make my job easier in the long run.

[gth1]