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Longton
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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Low low offer in Qassim!!!!!! |
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| What must rank as the worst paying EFL job is Saudi is advertised on this site today. SR4,5oo per month and shared accommodation. Below this ad is one from Vietnam offering $2,ooo a month! |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| This is the rate for 'ethnics' from the Subcontinent and the Philippines. |
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veiledsentiments
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You have to be kidding... US$1200 plus shared housing... and they want a native speaker with experience and CELTA.
Oh... and you have to Muslim in order to get these slave wages... Nice...
VS
(Scot... granted that the English of many Indians and Filipinos is very good, but would they be considered 'native speakers' of English coming from countries where English is NOT the official language?) |
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Zajko
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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There was one advertised here a couple of weeks back which offered a low to average EFL salary but included the following stipulation:
Working hours 48 hours per week from Saturday to Wednesday, from 7.45 AM to 12.00 Noon and from 4.00 PM to 9.00 PM. Thursday from 10 AM to 12:00 Noon (40 teaching hours per week), Thursday evening and Friday are off.
40 TEACHING hours a week??? In Saudi?? This must be the worst EFL job I've seen advertised here for Saudi in terms of workload. I've never been asked to do more than 24; less than that at universities. Does anyone working in Saudi teach anything like this amount of hours? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Only a small minority of English teachers in KSA (or anywhere !) are native speakers.
4500 SR a month will not get you someone with a UK or US passport. Maybe twice that. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| A mobile telephone number and a hotmail email! The guy is obviously looking for native speakers or he wouldn't have paid $75 to advertise on Dave's. Annual housing allowance SR4,500. I think we should encourage hundreds of our friends back home to apply just to inconvenience the guy! |
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scot47
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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There are loads of individuals in Britain who would be happy to come and work in the Heartland of Islam for a salary like this. Whether they will be any good as English teachers is another story.
How long they will stay when they find the reality of life in Qassim as an outsider is yet another ! |
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Saudi4Ever
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| "Housing: private or sharing room with bathroom or one month salary towards renting a room elsewhere (whatever the teacher prefers)." |
At least they get a choice! Let's see...share a room and bathroom with a complete stranger or get ONE whole months housing allowance to find a roch infested ROOM of my own!
I am no prophetess, but I see runners all over the place. |
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007
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Low low offer in Qassim!!!!!! |
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| Longton wrote: |
| What must rank as the worst paying EFL job is Saudi is advertised on this site today. SR4,5oo per month and shared accommodation. Below this ad is one from Vietnam offering $2,ooo a month! |
Maybe SR4500 is the basic salary not the final salary which includes bonus + years of experience.
According to the official Saudi Salary scale, a Teacher of languges start with SR4500 +355 x Nb of experience years (Max 5!) + 500 (transport allowance + bonus .
So, a teacher with 3 years experience will get at least 4500 + 350x3 + 500 = 6050 SR + Bonus ??? = ???????
And the housing allowancxes is SR17000 /year.
It is better to email/call the contact person and confirm with him about the final salary.
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] Working hours 48 hours per week from Saturday to Wednesday, from 7.45 AM to 12.00 Noon and from 4.00 PM to 9.00 PM. Thursday from 10 AM to 12:00 Noon (40 teaching hours per week), Thursday evening and Friday are off.
40 TEACHING hours a week??? In Saudi?? This must be the worst EFL job I've seen advertised here for Saudi in terms of workload. I've never been asked to do more than 24; less than that at universities. Does anyone working in Saudi teach anything like this amount of hours? |
Working hours is not teaching hours!!!
You might be allocated 40 HR working hours, but in fact the number of teaching hours is 18 to 20 hours and the remaining are contact and preparation hours. I do not think any teacher in the magic kingdom is teaching 40 HR /week unless he is an illegal teacher from the land of Waq Waq! |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| There are loads of individuals in Britain who would be happy to come and work in the Heartland of Islam for a salary like this. Whether they will be any good as English teachers is another story. |
Not for that salary. People might go to Makkah for a couple of thousand more, but Makkah appears to be a very pleasant place to live. |
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007
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| scot47 wrote: |
| There are loads of individuals in Britain who would be happy to come and work in the Heartland of Islam for a salary like this. Whether they will be any good as English teachers is another story.! |
Oh yeah, the ones who are un-employed or living from Uncle Brown social security benefits and do not pay POLL TAX!  |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Working hours is not teaching hours!!! |
Jeez, 007 didn't they teach you to read at Primary School? It states 48 working hours and 40 teaching hours in the advert.
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And the housing allowances is SR17000 /year. |
Didn't bother to read this advert either, did you. The housing allowance they are offering is SR4.500 a year. This is a private language school. Nothing to do with the State salary system. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| and do not pay POLL TAX! |
Poll tax was abolished fifteen years ago. Up-to-date, aren't we? |
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Zajko
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I did put 'TEACHING' in capital letters so that those who make a habit of replying to posts without reading more than the first line might actually realise what this advert was saying.
Clearly wasn't worth the effort. I'll try to work out a way to make it easier to understand next time. Something like:
40 TEACHING hours
Any clearer now, 007? Can't seem to manage to make it flash or jump up and down, sorry. |
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Junaid
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What I find really amusing is this section:
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We are currently looking for a teacher:
Muslim, single, male & female, native speaker of English who is committed, flexible creative, and under the age of 45. |
Looks like the post is reserved for hermaphrodites only
Sorry, just couldn't resist... |
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