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Zajko
Joined: 31 May 2007
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Location: No Fixed Address :)
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| That's a weird question for someone who has lived and worked in Saudi Arabia, and who posts / claims to know as much about the Magic Kingdom as you supposedly do, isn't it, 007? |
No, it is not!
Not true! Your stereotyping of me is totally wrong! |
Stereotyping? You've got 'KSA' written by your name as your 'location' (presumably meaning you've lived/worked there? Unless you made this up?) and you've made 1000+ posts on this board, many on numerous aspects of living and working in Saudi. Certainly, one could argue (unlike many who post here regularly) that you go for quantity rather than quality in much of your posting, but you're certainly (a) posting regularly on the topic, and (b) claiming to know about it. So where, precisely, does 'stereotyping' come in??? Yet another example of your not reading / understanding the posts you're replying to.
I think your other point, such as it is, has already been answered more than once on this thread. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: Re: The proof is in |
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Dear 007,
Even if the "proof" were only reciting the Shahadah (in Arabic) and adhering
to the Five Pillars of Islam, that, to my mind, anyway, would still be "proof."
Regards,
John |
Dear John
I did not mention anything about "proof" in my posts!
I think your reply is for Saudi4Ever!
I think the real �proof� is what you believe in, and what is �hidden� in your heart!
And this is very difficult to prove because it is between you and God!
The faith is what is on your heart and �reflected� or �verified� by your actions!
So, the question is; how to differentiate between a �faithful� person and a �hypocrite�?
| Zajco wrote: |
| Certainly, one could argue (unlike many who post here regularly) that you go for quantity rather than quality in much of your posting,.. |
What do you mean by 'quality'? And how do you measure it?
What has �quality� or �quantity� to do with postings?
All posts here are subject to personal �judgement�, and each poster is reflecting on his specific experience, and �quality� or �quantity� has nothing to do with the heart of the matter!
I do not see any 'quality' either in your posts!
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| So where, precisely, does 'stereotyping' come in??? |
It comes in your 'mental' model of me!
Still, your �mental� model of me is not compatible with my �real� model! |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Proof |
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Dear 007,
You didn't mention anything about proof? Well, you certainly referred to it:
"Quote:
And if I were a Muslim and applied for such a job, I'd better be able to prove I'm a Muslim.
Not necessarily!"
I took your reply to mean that one would "not necessarily" have to "prove" that he/she was a Muslim.
Was I mistaken?
Regards,
John |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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John,
Never have high expectations of 007 actually reading and comprehending... nor answering logically or helpfully. It is just not in his troll-like nature.
VS |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Proof |
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dear 007,
You didn't mention anything about proof? Well, you certainly referred to it:
"Quote:
And if I were a Muslim and applied for such a job, I'd better be able to prove I'm a Muslim.
Not necessarily!"
I took your reply to mean that one would "not necessarily" have to "prove" that he/she was a Muslim.
Was I mistaken?
Regards,
John |
It is rare that the employers in KSA put a condition/requirement that you have to be a Muslim! Unless, of course the job advert was for a Mufti, Imam, or a teacher for Islamic subjects, or the location of the employer is inside the �Al-Haram� cities, and these usually are advertised in the Islamic countries.
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| Never have high expectations of 007 actually reading and comprehending... nor answering logically or helpfully. It is just not in his troll-like nature. |
This is a kind of Ostracism!
Sister VS wants to expel 007 from the 'virtual' city of Dave! 
Have at least a good faith on me. |
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Griff-James
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Posts: 171
Location: A place full of 18 year olds and endless ale. Not not this time.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've said it before: OO7 is a comedy genius. 
I've come to suspect he might be Sacha Baron-Cohen! |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: Oi vay |
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Dear Griff-James,
Well, I can't put my finger on exactly why, but somehow I doubt it:
"Baron Cohen first acted in theatrical productions featuring the Socialist-Zionist youth movement Habonim Dror.
He spent a year in Israel at Kibbutz Rosh HaNikra and Kibbutz Beit HaEmek as part of the Shnat Habonim Dror, before matriculating to university.
According to Baron Cohen, "I wouldn't say that I am a religious Jew, but I'm still proud to be Jewish." However, he keeps kosher and generally observes the Jewish Sabbath, refusing to answer the phone on Shabbat.
Baron Cohen frequently speaks in Hebrew and Polish while playing the anti-Semitic character Borat. He also sang the lyrics from an old Hebrew folk song in an episode of Da Ali G Show. Additionally he identifies his country's greatest scientist, who he says discovered a woman's brain is the same size as that of a squirrel, as "Dr Yarmulke". (A yarmulke, or kippah, is the skullcap worn by Jews.)"
Regards,
John |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Posts: 4124
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Statistically you can be fairly sure that any information 007 gives or any opinion he expresses is wrong.
The forbidden zone in both Makkah and Madinah extends many kilometers from the center for example.
And of course you get a different color iqama according to your religion. There are also many schools that now only take Moslem teachers, though as the pay and conditions are dire that could be considered positive discrimination. |
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Griff-James
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Posts: 171
Location: A place full of 18 year olds and endless ale. Not not this time.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Jon,
The whole 007 personae is Boratesque.
It's superb. |
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