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[ghost]

A turkish female English teacher who beat and swore at students in her class kept her job, but one of the students who recorded the incident on his cell phone was expelled from the school. Incredible!

If it had been a 'yabanci' teacher doing that (foreign teacher) he/she would have been led away in handcuffs.

This is Turkey at its worst!

Read this news:

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=91400

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Ghost in Korea

[windstar]

Your comment comes with bias. At public schools, teachers are given tenure position until they like to resign or retire pursuant to state employee act article 657. Foreigners, if employed by the state, can have the same rights or be employed on a contract. There is no discrimination against foreigners on this issue. Please make some research.

[ghost]

[yaramaz]

Ghost, windstar was talkıng about public schools and tenure, not private schools. I don't think anyone can get tenure in a private school- both Turks and foreigners were on one year contracts at TED Kayseri and the Turks were a lot more vulnerable to non renewal or firing than the foreigners were.

[windstar]

Thanks Yaramaz, I think somebody is there to accuse a whole nation. It happens everywhere. I was let go in Canada for not being a Catholic, though Canadian. Should I blame all Catholic school boards?
TED is a private school chain. They hire and fire according to their wishes and will pay you any indemnification, i believe, if any.

[ghost]

That may be true about the differences between public and private, but going back to the original post, the astonishment comes from the teacher being allowed to continue her job, after her total loss of control in the classroom, and that is what we should be concerned about.

In Korea, also, there are different sets of rules for Koreans and foreigners - with Korean teachers sometimes giving corporal punishment to students, which foreigners would never do.

In any event - public or private - the teacher, in my opinion, lost her marbles there, and it was astonishing that the person punished most severely was the student who witnessed and recorded the incident.

I know how easy it is to become frustrated with students - and I was once severely reprimanded with a Catholic school board for admonishing a perennial student rabble rouser, but the above incident was really off the charts.

That was one of the reasons I opted out of my permanent job as a French teacher with a Catholic school board in Ontario, in 2002.

Ghost in Korea

[Otterman Ollie]

Nice one ghost, keep em coming. You know more about what goes on over here than we do !

[nomad22]

ive worked at private primary schools here for a while and ive never known a turkish home room teacher NOT to hit the kids. these kids certainly deserve some kind of punishment, but slapping and clipping the kids in the ear is pretty normal. i guess it was in the west 30-40 years ago too. and when you think about the mental development of turkey, i guess it's all relative.

[ladonnaoscurata]

Well, I was recently told that a parent came into my school and grabbed two primary school students by their hair, dragged them downstairs to the principal's office and then slapped them both in the face in front of the school principal. Apparently, the girls had had a fight with his daughter on the Internet the night before.

He is still seen on a regular basis in the principal's office, sipping tea. Go figure.

[dagi]

"If it had been a 'yabanci' teacher doing that (foreign teacher) he/she would have been led away in handcuffs. "

Not true. At least not in private schools. And there are foreign teachers, too who slap their students and swear at them, or insult, humilate and bully. Never heard of anyone getting fired because of them.

[scb222]

no no no, nothing to the extent of what the turkish teachers do to the students! not even comparable! a joke to even imply it could be comparable!