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TexasKelly
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 6 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: diploma |
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I have a masters and an undergraduate both in social work. my undergradate degree is in my parents attic in a frame done professional so it will be in the frame for all eternity. will my graduate degree be enough? can I use transcripts in place of a degree?
Transcripts are official documents that list my degree and all the classes that I took while earning the degree. I am not sure if every country uses transcripts so if someone is on here not from the US I wanted to explain.
Thanks for the help. |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| That's a good question. I'm in the same situation; I lost the original diploma with the fancy lettering a long time ago, and have used a notarized transcript for work permits in other countries (Korea and Japan) and it was no problem - they accepted it. Here in Thailand I didn't need to show my degree, as my working status is 'consultant' rather than teacher. In short, I don't know the answer. If you don't get a reply, I'd suggest that you register and post your question here, within the Paperwork subforum. There are a lot more regular posters over there; somebody will know the answer. |
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Jared
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 319 Location: Canada
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| Does your degree necessarily need to be from an English speaking country to teach in Thailand? Or can it be from any country just as long as it's accredited by their local ministry of education? and if the courses were conducted in English? |
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gusto102
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Unlike Korea or Japan, the Thai government isn�t as strict as it should be in regards to enforcing their teaching requirements. The teacher�s salaries out here are not exactly competitive so Thailand cannot afford to be as picky as other places. It would be nice to see more qualified teachers out here. But I think that a master�s degree and teaching experience is far better than what I see most teachers come out here with.
I can only comment based on my experience at a Thai public school and a private school here in BKK. My boss at the public school asked for my university degree, transcripts and TEFL when applying for a work permit. But I have seen other guys that have come and gone with neither a degree/transcripts nor TEFL. So I think, officially, you would need all three, but in reality it would just depend on the school and the teachers themselves. The private school I work for doesn�t enforce either the degree or TEFL requirement, but no assistance on the work permit.
As far as where the degree comes from, the teachers I know at the public school would not hire a non native speaker with or without a degree. I am guessing their attitude is that they want the �real deal� so to speak. I know a few guys working at other public schools that are non native speakers and still landed jobs. My boss at the private school, who is from Poland, says he won�t hire a non native speaker. But I have seen him hire guys from Holland and Quebec albeit they spoke English without a strong accent.
Sorry I cannot give you a straight answer, but there doesn�t seem to be any clearly enforced hiring criteria here in Thailand. |
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Jared
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 319 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| gusto102 wrote: |
Unlike Korea or Japan, the Thai government isn�t as strict as it should be in regards to enforcing their teaching requirements. The teacher�s salaries out here are not exactly competitive so Thailand cannot afford to be as picky as other places. It would be nice to see more qualified teachers out here. But I think that a master�s degree and teaching experience is far better than what I see most teachers come out here with.
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Yeah but at the same time, having a university degree doesn't necessarily make you a better teacher. All a BA does is make it easy for you to get a work visa. Japan for that matter will hire a person with no degree if they have 3 years of work experience. Korea, well if you don't have a BA from an English speaking country, you're out.
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As far as where the degree comes from, the teachers I know at the public school would not hire a non native speaker with or without a degree. I am guessing their attitude is that they want the �real deal� so to speak. |
If you happen to be a person from a native English speaking country like Canada but your degree is not from a native English speaking country, will you still be able to get a work permit? |
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JamesDavid4th
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 20 Location: Rayong, Thailand
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| if you have a degree bring it. why wouldnt you. it is your credentials. in Korea, they will not simply accept transcripts, you have to take your actual degree to the labor board in order to get your visa, no exceptions. i even first tried with an official letter of completion from my university, they said no, they wanted the degree. |
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Jared
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 319 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| JamesDavid4th wrote: |
| if you have a degree bring it. why wouldnt you. it is your credentials. in Korea, they will not simply accept transcripts, you have to take your actual degree to the labor board in order to get your visa, no exceptions. i even first tried with an official letter of completion from my university, they said no, they wanted the degree. |
Are you speaking specifically of your Korea experience? (I'm not meaning to go too far off topic here. I understand this is the "Thailand" forum). And yes I would of course bring a "degree" certificate and transcripts to Thailand. Personally I think it's ridiculous that any country would say "Must bring your actual degree". Really a person should just have to prove that they actually went to that university. Here's some transcripts mr. asia man. Here's the phone number to the University I went to. You can call this number to verify whether or not my education is real and legit. Would you like a ribbon on that? I'm just being funny. But just for the record, I don't think that the actual "degree" certificate should be too hard to get. Can't you just order another one from your university if you need to? |
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TexasKelly
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 6 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: degree |
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| i can probably just order another one from my university. I am just lazy and cheap. that is probably what i should do. I am sure it is not the last job that i will need it for. |
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