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shanewarne



Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: G'day Reply with quote

Hi im new here...... just want to know does one have to be born in a native english speaking country to teach in mexico? As i'm from Denmark however i have lived almost my entire life in the UK so of course i speak perfect english. thanks Smile
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: G'day Reply with quote

shanewarne wrote:
Hi im new here...... just want to know does one have to be born in a native english speaking country to teach in mexico? As i'm from Denmark however i have lived almost my entire life in the UK so of course i speak perfect english. thanks Smile

As long as you sound the part you'll be ok. Mexicans might get confused if you say you're Danish though. Come to think of it most Mexicans don't have a clue where Denmark is or what language they speak.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your English is truly indistinguishable from that of a native speaker you should have no difficulties finding teaching work in Mexico.
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shanewarne



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies, well i speak the queens english so there shouldnt be any issues.
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Oreen Scott



Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Location: Oaxaca, Mexico

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non-native speakers certainly can teach English.

Just because someone can speak English doesn't mean they can teach it.


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reddevil79



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err, I think Shaney was asking more about the fact that he was Danish, he didn't mention anything of his qualifications. For all we know, he could have a first class degree, Masters in English, DELTA...

We hired a Dutch national at my last school, as she was one of the best, hardest working and most popular teachers we had. There might be the odd bit of discrimination from some schools (I've seen some ads wanting American nationals only), but then you probably wouldn't want to work in those schools anyway.

I think it's great education for the students here to see teachers from countries other than the usual ones (USA, UK, Canada...), English is a truely global language after all.

And anyone who has Shane Warne as their pic is a worth a look in my book Wink
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shanewarne



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oreen Scott wrote:
Here's the thing. Just because a person can speak English doesn't mean he or she can teach English.

Currently I'm in the middle of my practicum. For two weeks I will do nothing but sleep, eat and work on my lesson plans and teach.

While reading posts on this forum I'm eating breakfast. Although I've been up for 4 hours I'm just now taking a brief time to eat, and I'm eating because my brain needs food so that I can continue working.

In order to get to the point where I could take my practicum I sat through about 120 hours of class time, did uncountable hours of reading, assignments and exam taking.

And, as far as I'm concerned when I receive my certification, in April, the certification and my bachelor's degree is the minimum anyone should have before they consider teaching ESL.

So there!


what was that all about? my first lecture?
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No Moss



Joined: 15 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oreen Scott wrote:
Here's the thing. Just because a person can speak English doesn't mean he or she can teach English.

Currently I'm in the middle of my practicum. For two weeks I will do nothing but sleep, eat and work on my lesson plans and teach.

While reading posts on this forum I'm eating breakfast. Although I've been up for 4 hours I'm just now taking a brief time to eat, and I'm eating because my brain needs food so that I can continue working.

In order to get to the point where I could take my practicum I sat through about 120 hours of class time, did uncountable hours of reading, assignments and exam taking.

And, as far as I'm concerned when I receive my certification, in April, the certification and my bachelor's degree is the minimum anyone should have before they consider teaching ESL.

So there!


I believe the message here is that you have to suffer yourself before you can make others suffer. Laughing
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oreen Scott wrote:
Here's the thing. Just because a person can speak English doesn't mean he or she can teach English.

That is the thing but you're going to meet a lot of 'teachers' whose only ability is being able to (just about) speak English. 50% of this industry is based on it I think.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oreen Scott wrote:
So there!

....?
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hlamb



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:


That is the thing but you're going to meet a lot of 'teachers' whose only ability is being able to (just about) speak English. 50% of this industry is based on it I think.


As long as schools continue to hire native speakers simply because they can speak English, this will continue to be the case.
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Oreen Scott



Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sayanything



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's necessary to present your whole cv before asking a simple question that DOESN'T relate to qualifications at all.
As for your question, Shane, in the school i'm working for (a reputable and large company) we have several non-native teachers.
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dixie



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of places here where English is taught by Mexicans. Obviously, English is not their first language. To get the better pay/place, it helps to be a native of the language, but is not always neccessary or better.

Qualifications also vary, between simply being a native, to having earned a certificate, a degree, what not. I am a certified teacher from Ontario, but my grammar knowledge lacks compared to many who are certified with TESL and DELTA and CELTA and whatever else is out there, as well as those who "simply" speak the language, yet are very knowledgable about the grammar.

To be able to teach, has to do with knowledge, personality, determination, and most importantly the ability to keep learning, and be flexible.

Qualifications don�t make a good teacher (but they certainly improve one�s ability)...hence why in Ontario the teacher testing was removed. Writing a test, getting straight A�s does not mean that one can stand in front of a group of people and edudate them.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: teach in Mexico Reply with quote

So the answer... after all of that.. is that you should have no problems... I would add that if you carry a UK passport, then where you were born wont matter at all.
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