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unesco



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: qualifications Reply with quote

when I complete my BA I'm considering doing a MA either in education specialising in TESOL or in linguistics.
From what I read on this board it seems that these may be of little value regarding employment in China.
Is this the case?
Or have I misinterpreted some of the debates here?
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The Voice Of Reason



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
No.
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Surfdude18



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: qualifications Reply with quote

unesco wrote:
when I complete my BA I'm considering doing a MA either in education specialising in TESOL or in linguistics.
From what I read on this board it seems that these may be of little value regarding employment in China.
Is this the case?
Or have I misinterpreted some of the debates here?


If you want your qualifications to make a real difference to employment in China, the best thing to do is to become a qualified teacher in your own country, rather than do a TESOL type qualification. Honestly, the improvements in salary that most Chinese institutions offer to those with an MA or whatever are laughable.

With a PGCE or PDPE you could get a job at an International School in China and make a very handy salary... I'm about to return to the UK to do mine, but I wish I'd done it 5 years ago instead of coming out here to do ESL. Well, that and the fact that the 1300 quid I spent doing my CELTA was really a total waste of money...
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Anda



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Linguistics would be better but I wouldn't think of doing it unless you can / intend to get teacher certification in you home country.
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malu



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: qualifications Reply with quote

Surfdude18 wrote:

If you want your qualifications to make a real difference to employment in China, the best thing to do is to become a qualified teacher in your own country..


This is true in most Asian countries. An MA in Applied Linguistics might get you 5-10k here on first appointment. Qualified teacher status will get you 15-40k.
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unesco



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

qualified teacher status= working in international school teaching expat's kids?
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malu



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not entirely. Most international schools here have as many Chinese kids as foreign students.

Going off at a tangent, the most bizarre school I've seen is the China branch of that old and wrinkly English public school Harrow. They actually have the silly uniform, which looks laughably archaic even in the shires of England, although their premises fall far short of ye olde Englishe publick schoole.

What the nouveau riche of Beijing are too thick to realise is that Harrow have established their China school because the toffs of merrie England were getting fed up with their Tarquins and Henrys sharing dorms with the sons of erstwhile peasantry from the middle kingdom.
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