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pauleslteacher1



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Australian Detained in Depok..... Reply with quote

Hello...... Anyone know where this alleged "teacher" was working in Depok?

Alleged child molester detained
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

An Australian man who had been at large for child molesting in his country, was arrested Wednesday by local police in Cimanggis, Depok.

Head of the Juveniles, Children and Women unit Adj. Snr. Comr. Achmad Rivai said the suspect, Charles Alfred Barnett, had sexually abused six minors from 1977 to 1994 in South Australia.

The arrest was coordinated by the City Police and the liaison office of the International Police in Jakarta.

"Barnett has been detained and will go through an extradition trial before we send him back to Australia," Achmad told a press conference Tuesday.

Indonesia has had an extradition agreement with Australia since 1994.

Barnett was arrested in his house at Jl. Leuwi Nanggung in Cimanggis last Wednesday and police said he did not resist.

The Australian Embassy in Indonesia said in a document dated May 9, 2007, Barnett was charged with violating several articles of the 1935 South Australian Criminal Law, including sexual assault and statutory rape.

"Barnett is also suspected of committing molestation crimes here in Indonesia and we are running an investigation to prove it," Achmad said.

Two Indonesians, who are Barnett's servants, were taken to by police to testify as witnesses.

The 67-year-old man came to Indonesia in 1996 as a tourist, but extended his stay and was working as an English teacher before being arrested.

Indonesia's loose policy of hiring native speakers as language teachers can encourage those like Barnett to come and work in Indonesia.

[b]Many foreigners have been known to flee to Indonesia to escape from committed crimes. (dre)
hmmmm.......Really?

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Nabby Adams



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One wonders how a 67 year old man got a visa to teach when the cut off age is somewhat lower than that?
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sherlock



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been told on a number of occasions that the age limit is a myth. It may have been a law at one time, but nowadays it certainly isn't or at least doesn't seem to be enforced.


I know of 1 teacher who is over 60 and one who is over 65 and they get work permits no trouble. Their schools just apply at the immigration dept and no questions are ever asked about their age.
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Llamalicious



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
hmmmm.......Really?


Well, ye-es. This is not the first case, nor, I suspect, will it be the last. That said, the last paragraph was a bit inflammatory. Many?

The barriers to access to children in this country are easily surmountable - no background check, no police check, etc.

Do you remember the case of Christopher Paul Neil a few months ago? Interpol released photos of him abusing young boys in Thailand and Cambodia. He had used a swirl effect to obscure his face, but they were able to reverse it. Turned out he was an English teacher in Korea (and posted on the Korea forums here at Dave's). He was eventually tracked down and arrested.

After news of this broke, South Korea clamped down on English teachers, requiring a yearly police check, among other things. Do you think Indonesia could follow a similar path?
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malu



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Llamalicious wrote:

After news of this broke, South Korea clamped down on English teachers, requiring a yearly police check, among other things. Do you think Indonesia could follow a similar path?


Just what we need... another means for pak polisi to extract money from FT's and their employers. Must be a more reliable way of dealing with the problem.

If all employers checked references (really checked them) and did a simple Google search or two, that would help.
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ngantuk



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed Malu. Not just a "Google Search", but ACTUALLY going to the trouble of following up their Referees (assuming they have given any).... And in turn contacting their said Country.

Too many prospective employers trust / don't give a f**k / are too lazy to follow-up the applicant re their qualifications etc. Due to this, Indonesia is a haven for those who have a rather dubious past. As we've already seen !

As we know it's those C**TS that give others a bad name ............[/u]


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Fishy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

malu wrote:
Llamalicious wrote:

After news of this broke, South Korea clamped down on English teachers, requiring a yearly police check, among other things. Do you think Indonesia could follow a similar path?


Just what we need... another means for pak polisi to extract money from FT's and their employers. Must be a more reliable way of dealing with the problem.

If all employers checked references (really checked them) and did a simple Google search or two, that would help.


They don't need to pay pak polisi anything, but employers should insist on a police check with police in the applicant's home country. I don't know about other countries but in UK this costs �40 (around 600,000) which I think is acceptable if it ensures a safer working environment. The police here can confirm in a couple of days whether someone is on the sex offenders register.
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malu



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishy, I will be returning to Indo in a couple of months (hurrah!) and I'll suggest to my new boss, who is a reasonable guy, that the school looks into the feasibility of a home country police check.

My only concern is that if you are recruited to a job while already in Indo it might be difficult to obtain the report without returning home (?)

The most unsavoury character I ever met in Asia was fired from two schools after making lewd suggestions to underage males. (There were more serious allegations but witnesses would not come forward). Within weeks, I later found out, he was back in Indo working at a EF!
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