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Samantha



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ME relax? LOL
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most of the posts here are dead on. I consider a starting salary in Mexico for a full-time English teacher to be in the range of 7000 to 8000 per month. An experienced teacher with a degree should be able to break 10000.

If someon offered me 4500/month, even with some sort of housing included, I'd take it as an insult.
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ESLmontana



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Private schools are where you will want to be looking then, and with your qualifications and experience you should be able to secure a full-time (provided its the right time - beginning of the year, or right when someone leaves).

If you do work full-time for a private school then you should expect to make something in the range that Guy mentioned (I would think the higher end of it, but again, that will depend on the location of your school).

Seeing how you would like to work with kiddies, I would skip the whole job placement service and do the research yourself. Most schools have webpages, or at least contact information online, that you can search for and then call/email. Personally, I think it would be better for you, and preferred by the school, if you did the question asking/contact making directly



OK...thank you fro the tip(s). However, that is part of what I am seeking.........a good job board that is focused on the ESL market in Latin America.

cheers.


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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dixie



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot live on 5500/month, thus, I have to work the 40 hours to make a higher monthly income.

If I could easily live on 5500/month, then hell yes I would reduce my work load!

But, within that 23 hr/week, how many are teaching hours vs. prep?
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady wrote:
If I'm reading your 2 posts right, you're prepared to work 40 hrs/wk at (net) 60/pesos per hour. 4500/month you'd consider an insult.
How many hours/wk do you think 4500/month would be?

I found my monthly expenses to be about 6000 pesos per month; so I wouldn't be interested in a job for 4500 pesos/month, no matter the hours.
When I taught for the university, roughly 20 of those 40 hours were spent in the classroom. The other 20-ish hours were spent preparing materials, marking, planning, and special projects (translations, tutorials, etc.).
For 4500/month, I'd expect to work 20 hours total - that includes only 10 hours of class time, and 10 hours for prep time, marking, and other duties.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LS, your housing wasn't included in your pay package, correct?

4,500 wouldn't cover my minimum expenses unless housing was included for me. I wouldn't work any hours at all at that rate, but I might do so if I were a new and inexperienced teacher in Mexico. I was earning 60 pesos an hour when I first got here in 2000, which didn't included prep or travel time to classes. I didn't stay at that rate very long though.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
LS, your housing wasn't included in your pay package, correct?.
Nope. My first teaching gig in Jakarta included shared housing.
Never again.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the point in breaking down an hourly wage for a job that is salaried.

LS is coming back to the same school, which while he needed to figure out what he wanted to do with his life, it's unfortunate he left in the first place because we do get yearly raises that kick in after 5 years.
When I first started here 10 years ago my gross pay was 6,9000 pesos a month. It's now 16,250 a month. the difference is in part due to annual cost of living increases, in part to to antiquitiy raises. In addition to a Christmas bonus equal to one month's salary, there is a savings plan where they withold one month's salary over the course of the year and match it, so they give you another month's salary that way. So we get 14 months salary a year, which LS is not taking into account in his hourly wage. He's also saying all the hours--not teaching hours, so it's not the same as a job that is paid 60 pesos an hour only paying the teaching hours. If you only consider the teaching hours, LS was getting 120 an hour. And he is given a time and a place to do all his prep, so he doesn't have to take work home.
The hours in the classroom at my job can very from 10 to 20 (depending on the semester) those 40 hours on campus. I think 23 teaching hours a week is a full-time job, because you should have an hour prep for every hour in the classroom, so I think 5,500 for that much teaching is too little. If it were a "method" school like Berlitz where there was minimul planning because everything is laid out for you, then maybe--but again that's the type of job a new, under-trained teacher should have, not someone with years of experience.

I can understand why the retired set with a pension (no matter how large or small) would want to work less hours for a lower monthly income, but I agree that 6,000 would be the minium I'd work for no matter what the hours, because I have no desire to have two jobs. I think 4,500 with housing is good for a recent college grad just looking for way to fund a year abroad.
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corporatehuman



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RBEARD

Thank you for changing your avatar it was really starting to stress me out looking at all those sorority girls and having flashbacks to games of beer bong.
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debmport



Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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Location: Guadalaholla

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to the advantage of the shotgun approach, one can stuff many more cans into one trash bag than bottles.

Of course bottles can be broken off and used as weapons if you find yourself on the wrong side of San Juan de Dios.
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rbeard2



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's wrong with flashbacks of playing beer pong?! Ha ha- fun times....
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