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VEGETARIAN and health food in Riyadh
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Cleopatra. Common sense at least in the face of "Californian Narcissism" !
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who are interested in:

Oats (rolled or steel-cut)
Oat bran
Barley (rolled)
Wheat germ
Wheat bran
Spelt (an ancient cousin of wheat)
Flax seeds
Whole wheat flour
Brown rice hot cereal
7-grain hot cereal
10-grain hot cereal
Muesli
Brown rice (short grain, long grain)
Wild rice
13-bean mix
Pumpkin seeds
Sunflower seeds
Soy flour
Soy beans
Whole grain pancake/baking mixes
Gluten-free pancake/baking mixes

etc.,

(i.e., whole intact grains, whole grain flours, seeds, etc)

should go to GNC (they don't sell only bodybuilding products and vitamins).

There is an American brand called Bob's Red Mill, which grows and packages various grains, nuts, and seeds in Oregon. Their flours are stone-ground.

They have over 200 products sold in the US, but here you will find the ones I mentioned above and a couple of more that I might have missed.

For the complete list of their products: www.bobsredmill.com

Choice is yours: Buy a SR. 20 box of processed cereal and have it last perhaps 8-10 servings, or buy a SR. 12-15 package of intact oats/barley/etc, and have it last 20 servings. Not to mention, the nutritional advantage of eating intact and/or broken grains over grains pulverized into a fine flour and made into flakes.

SAY NO TO FLAKES.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I buy 500g packets of various whole cereals - about 8SR a pop - and mix them to make a breakfast 'dish'. No need for any 'health food' shop, much less Bob's Red Mill. All are available in Geant and Carrefour. Vive la France!
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huntjuliehunt



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trapezius,

Thanks for the first legitimate and helpful response in this forum.

By the way, I never indicated that one should eat packaged foods instead of fruits and vegetables. But for those who care about health, the information I provided is a great addition to your diet. The products would also serve as a great replacement for current, poor eating habits. If a company in California uses organic, natural, wholesome ingredients, and freshly seals it without preservatives to be frozen and eaten at a later date (using an oven, not a radiating microwave) there is no difference from making your own dinner (soup, for example) and freezing it for yourself to eat at a later date.

If you are someone who gets clean bills of health on a regular basis, and eats fresh fruits and vegetables, beans and legumes, and whole grains and nuts, and protein, and receives all necessary vitamins and nutrients from that diet, then good for you and I'd like you to come over and make me dinner. But not everyone has time and equipment to bake their own wholesome bread at home. I have yet to find bread in Riyadh that does not contain partially hydrogentated fat (trans-fat) or bleached white sugar, or high fructose corn syrup.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have yet to find bread in Riyadh that does not contain partially hydrogentated fat (trans-fat) or bleached white sugar, or high fructose corn syrup.


It's easy enough to find sugarless bread, but the best you can do is probably get the stuff fresh from the baker (still possible in Riyadh), but I don't know of a baker that does wholemeal.

For carbs, stick to rice, potatoes or pasta.
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huntjuliehunt wrote:

But not everyone has time and equipment to bake their own wholesome bread at home. I have yet to find bread in Riyadh that does not contain partially hydrogentated fat (trans-fat) or bleached white sugar, or high fructose corn syrup.


Next time your in Tamimi pass by the baking section and pick up a bread pan, they are not that expensive.
Next stop by the flour section and pick up some whole wheat flour and some yeast, and your favorite oil...then go on line and find a decent recipe for making bread. I can assure you it isn't rocket science...maybe just a bit of practice! You don't needa measuring cup...any normal sized cup will do. I assume you have a spoon in your kitchen? Okay then...
You will be able to bake the bread of your choice at a fraction of the price!
Your excuse ...no time and equipement seems rather lame to me... especially for one who spouts off that he/she is so health conscious...no wonder people are on your case!
If you care so much about eating healthy... find the time ...isn't it worth it!!!! ?????
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I buy 500g packets of various whole cereals - about 8SR a pop - and mix them to make a breakfast 'dish'. No need for any 'health food' shop, much less Bob's Red Mill. All are available in Geant and Carrefour. Vive la France!


True.

The problem with getting grains in this country is that they are sold in open 'barrels' in the supermarkets (as well as nuts, seeds, and spices). Grains are something that should be kept airtight and refrigerated. If you go to Danube or whatever supermarket, and take a handful of wheat or broken wheat or corn from the barrels and sniff it, it is going to smell oxidized. There are natural oils in grains, and the oils being polyunsaturated, get oxidized quickly on exposure to air, light and heat.

However, now some of the big ones such as Geant, Carrefour, and even Danube, Giant, and Panda have started carrying typically 500 gram bags of whole oats, wheat, barley, etc. There are sometimes found in the grains/cereals aisle, but more often in the health food, diet food, or international food aisles, which are becoming more and more common in the big chain supermarkets.

Recently, I discovered a French brand called Markal in the International Food aisle of Giant. They have several products, including whole grains, broken grains, whole wheat pasta (one of the best foods you can eat), flours, seeds, beans, TVP, etc. Quite similar in range to Bob's Red Mill that I mentioned above. All the products are packaged in neat 500 gram packs, and are cheaper than Bob's Red Mill products.

However, since supermarkets are prone to being out of stock, and they keep on changing their product range constantly, not to mention the location of the aisles within the market, I usually prefer to go to GNC, as they always have Bob's Red Mill products in stock. Also, the first week of every month you can get a 20% discount on everything in GNC, which is quite neat.

I make a mean hot porridge (from all unprocessed fresh ingredients) which I try to have every morning. I guarandamntee all of you that you have never and never will have a tastier, healthier, more age-defying, more natural and unprocessed, and more filling breakfast. In fact, it suffices as a complete meal, giving you unrefined complex carbs, fiber, enough protein, good fat, some sugar (from honey and/or fruits), fruits (fresh and dried), nuts/seeds, spices, and more, all in one little (or large) heavenly bowl of steaming porridge. And it keeps hunger at bay for 5-6 hours by providing constant energy and a feeling of fullness.

Anybody is welcome to my home to have a bowl or two!

Cool

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