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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: Can you run all year in Saudi, or only during cool months? |
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This may seem like a strange question, but how many months of the year can you run outside in places like Dharan (near Bahrein)? I know that June to September would be out, and I checked average temps. for that time of year and they look very high (around 40 degrees centigrade/100 + fahrenheit).
Riyadh has a cooler climate, overall, but if I get a job in Saudi, it will be in Dharan - which is much more humid, unlike Riyadh which is much drier.
So, realistically, those who are dedicated runners/joggers (as I am) - how many months of the year can you run for? I am thinking - maybe from October to May might be possible. Are the gyms well equipped for cross training? Are there any jogging clubs or hashes in Dharan? Anywhere to run which is away from the hectic traffic?
Thanks for any feedback.
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Neil McBeath
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 277 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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If you are a truly dedicated runner, then a liuttle thing like 40 degree temperature shouldn't put you off. You just run a shorter distance than you would in the winter.
October to May is perfectly possible in Dhahran, but under no circumstances should you try to run on public roads. The security situation in Saudi Arabia is still extremely tense. A western man, out running, would be the perfect target of opportunity. You would be setting yourself up as a target. If anything happened, you would only have yourself to blame.
Inside company compounds, you can run to your heart's content. There is a winter series of races that are arranged within the Aramco compound, and these are taken very seriously indeed by some of the competitors.
I tried running at the BAE Aziziya Compound, but I was too used to the open roads of Oman, and I felt boxed in. I ended up feeling like a white mouse on an exercise wheel, and I kept losing count of how many times I had gone round the football pitch.
It is also perfectly possible to use gyms, but I have no personal experience of that. I don't run indoors. I run so that I can look at the scenery. |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I run so that I can look at the scenery. |
Scenery in big Saudi cities?
Peace in Israel/Palestine? |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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ghost wrote: |
So, realistically, those who are dedicated runners/joggers (as I am) - how many months of the year can you run for? I am thinking - maybe from October to May might be possible. Are the gyms well equipped for cross training? Are there any jogging clubs or hashes in Dharan? Anywhere to run which is away from the hectic traffic? |
I used to run 3 times a week from 6 am to 7 am (for the 10 months only). This was in the high mountains of Assir (2500 m above sea level), south of the magic kingdom. The weather there is fantastic all around the year.
The only drawback of this region is the lack of Oxygen and the presence of dangerous black scorpions! |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: re |
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Neil - just curious. Does that mean that running on the open roads is feasible in Oman? No danger there, from extremists who might like to take the opportunity to cause some harm, or is that very rare in Oman?
Also you mention running in 40 degrees centigrade - I think that would not be good for the body. I think the top temp. I have run in was around 35 degrees in Jordan, and it was hard to replace fluid at that temp.
I am an experienced marathon runner, with best times of 32:22 (10km) and 2:30 (marathon).
Thank you.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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ghost wrote: |
Neil - just curious. Does that mean that running on the open roads is feasible in Oman? No danger there, from extremists who might like to take the opportunity to cause some harm, or is that very rare in Oman?
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Neighborhood streets are no problem in Oman. I walked them rather than running with no problem. Some roads have too much traffic.
There is little or no danger of extremists in Oman so far. In the last 10 years, I have heard of two incidents of foreigners being shot and one of them was - I believe - running on a road. (the other was hikers and blamed on a 'hunting accident')
I would say it is possible that an extremist could appear in Oman and shoot you while jogging... but it is probably much less likely to happen than it would be on any street in the US.
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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The security situation in Saudi Arabia is still extremely tense. |
It is??
I must say I hadn't noticed. |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: re |
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Oman sounds like a nice/relaxed place for the region.
I am currently applying to a Saudi University, and if accepted, will try to visit Oman during breaks. How easy/difficult would it be to go from Dharan (near Al Khubar) to Masqat (Oman) overland?, going through Qatar and UAE? Too ambitious?
Is it possible to take buses to connect the following cities - Al Khubar (Saudi) to Doha (Qatar) - Al Ayn (UAE) - Musqat (Oman).
Looking at a map, I would estimate the distance between Al Khubar (Saudi) to Masqat (Oman) to be around 800km, and perhaps 12 hours of travel would be feasible. When in Turkey I often travelled such distances on weekends, using overnight buses. Does the same system operate in those countries (Saudi, Qatar, UAE and Oman)? Do they have interconnecting buses between the countries?
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windstar
Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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assuming you hold a british, canadian or us passport, it is not a problem to cross uae border and enter oman, yet, it will cost you 6 omani rials (@2.60). |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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If you run in Saudi you will be a target for extreme motorists.
Mr. McBeath is suffering from Compounditis, a severe malfunction of the organs used to perceive reality, common amongst expats in Saudi who don't limit their consumption of gossip.
If you jog on the KFUPM campus you will have the consolation of knowing you will be run over by a superior class of Saudi. |
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Neil McBeath
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 277 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Replies.
Trapezius - if you read my post and stop trying to score clever-clever points, you will see that I was referring to Oman.
Cleopatra - perhaps you should try reading the English languiages Saudi press. Even there, raids on "militants" are reported with quite surprising frequency.
Ghost - In over twenty years running in Oman I never had the slightest problem with anyone. I gave up running some routes - the Al Khod village past the University road; the road from Lansab and Ghallah - because the volume of traffic becoame so heavy that it was positively dangerous, but it was still perfectly possible to find tracks along back wadis, or tarmac roads that were away from housing areas. All pefectly safe.
Stephen Jones - OK. Have it your own way. There is no threat at all in KSA. The French tourists who were murdered because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time two years ago actually committed suicide.
And the BBC's security correspondant, Frank Gardner, was not shot in a Riyadh suburb. He is pefect health, and only uses a wheelchair to gain sympathy from the public. |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: running |
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How good is running around campus at KFUPM and are there any 'soft ground' parts (dirt tracks) that can be used? If you do a 'loop' around the grounds, how far would it be? I don't really like running in a stadium or around soccer pitches (boring).
How easy is it to get to the ARAMCO compound to take part in races, on an occasional basis? That is if you don't have a car?
Neal - I envy you, that you could run outside/anywhere in Oman. I think caution is advised in Saudi, and I will not be so fortunate. Also, I think I will have to leave my bike in Korea. I will really miss those rides in the Korean countryside, stopping at the occasional village, where the 'halmoni' (grandmothers) would give me a cup of water.
Stephen, thanks for the info.
In the hotter months, it looks like cross training and swimming are the best options. Every location has pluses and minuses. Saudi will be a challenge, but I am up for it.
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Cleopatra - perhaps you should try reading the English languiages Saudi press. Even there, raids on "militants" are reported with quite surprising frequency.
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I think they normally prefer the word 'terrorist' or, better yet, 'members of a deviant group'. In any case, it would be wise to take the official English language media with a large dose of salt. I don't believe any analyst takes seriously those claims of '200 terrorists netted in one swoop.' Besides, as in other countries, the term 'terrorist' is a convenient catch-all for anyone the government doesn't particularly like right now.
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The French tourists who were murdered because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time two years ago actually committed suicide. |
Two years ago? Wasn't it closer to one year ago?
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And the BBC's security correspondant, Frank Gardner, was not shot in a Riyadh suburb. |
This happened what, four years ago? In any case, I would think a journalist whose job knowingly involved direct involvement with the 'terrorists' is rather more in harm's way than a sweating, panting red-faced teacher heaving his weighty limbs down the highway. |
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Griff-James
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 171 Location: A place full of 18 year olds and endless ale. Not not this time.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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"The only drawback of this region is the lack of Oxygen and the presence of dangerous black scorpions!"
Laugh out loud funny!
Keep it coming Sacha Baron-Cohen.  |
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cmp45

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Griff-James wrote: |
"The only drawback of this region is the lack of Oxygen and the presence of dangerous black scorpions!"
Laugh out loud funny!
Keep it coming Sacha Baron-Cohen.  |
I am not so sure why you think this so funny; it is actually, in fact quite true! |
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