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Jeembo007



Joined: 14 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Going out with no job Reply with quote

I realise this has probably been asked quite a few times, but my searching skills didn't turn up much.

I'm thinking of going out to China with no job and using my "guanxi" to help me find a job whilst I'm there. I have friends in Shenzhen and Guangzhou and Huizhou with offers of free accommodation, so living wise I shall be fine. I also have a primary school teacher friend in Shenzhen and then another general friend in Guangzhou who have both offered to take me around to various schools for interviews.

My plan is to stay there for a month trying my luck, then if I don't find anything I'll return home, if I do then I'll cancel my return ticket (if possible) and start working.

But I want to know about the red tape issues etc, like going out there on a tourist visa and then changing whilst I'm there? Is there anything I should keep in mind before I leave the country? Is there anything I need?

Has anyone done this before, or known anyone that's done this? What happened?
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Jiangsu Province

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

As soon as you get here you must inform the local police about where you are staying. When you find a job you must do a visa run to Hong Kong. Do a demo lesson but don't get trapped into working without a Z visa as you will loose big time if you get caught.
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bearcanada



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can forget about informing the local police about where you are staying. I'm not aware of many people who obey that rule, nor of any policemen who much care to be informed.

The rest of your plan is fine.

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hairuo



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 473
Location: Somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad advice, Bearcanada. If you dont go, they just might come looking for you. I taught at a school in Guangzhou city. Spent a lot time in Shiqiao. One night the police came looking for me because I had not registered with Shiqaio. I showed them my permit from the school, but registered anyway in Shiqiao. In Xiangfan, because I had been there so long when I was a teacher there, the police just told me to go get my permission stamped when I spent some time with my friend... so dont be saying you dont have to...its best to stay within the law.
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Jeembo007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I have to report to the police even when I am technically a tourist? Or just when I have become employed?

Also, in my previous experience (and I could have got this wrong) the Z visa was later replaced by a Foreign Experts Certificate. Should this be done at every school, or if a school that employs me doesn't do this is this OK?

Cheers
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lf_aristotle69



Joined: 06 May 2006
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Location: HangZhou, China

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: PaiChu Suo... what? Reply with quote

Jeembo007 wrote:
Do I have to report to the police even when I am technically a tourist? Or just when I have become employed?

Also, in my previous experience (and I could have got this wrong) the Z visa was later replaced by a Foreign Experts Certificate. Should this be done at every school, or if a school that employs me doesn't do this is this OK?

Cheers


There's registering with the local area police station (PaiChu Suo), and then there's getting your Resident Permit (which should be assisted by and paid for by your employer BTW) at the PSB.

To be able to do the latter, I believe you have to first do the former, but I'm not one hundred percent sure of that. I know when I did it myself recently (for a student visa/resident permit), that I had to get the little acknowledgement slip from the PaiChu Suo first. I'm not sure if you go through the school if they don't just do that on your behalf, especially if you're living on the campus.

Anyway, both are important and should be done. Not to mention that you are legally obliged to do so.

The police (PaiChu Suo) don't usually get too upset if you're a few days tardy when you visit them.

But, if you haven't done those things when the police (of various descriptions) catch you working (or just sitting in a bar as is happening more frequently) then the consequences can be worse.

By the way, about being a tourist. When you stay in a hotel and you have to give them all that personal info including them photocopying your passport, that's for the hotel to pass on to the PaiChu Suo.

Fortunately, fewer and fewer hotels are implementing this in it's full Orwellian form these days. So, in many hotels now only one person staying in a room has to register... you, or your 'special friend'.

And, yes, technically, if you are travelling around visiting and staying at friends' apartments you should be going and registering at the PaiChu Suo yourself...

This one is not usually enforced... but sometimes it is...
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