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chickyabroad



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: New here - question on where to work Reply with quote

I've been reading this forum for awhile, trying to research different places to work in China, but it's getting to be a bit overwhelming... I spent a month traveling around China almost 10 years ago, so my sense of Chinese geography is a bit shaky. (Plus, even with a month, we didn't get to see more than a tiny part of the country.) So I thought I would ask for some suggestions of what cities to start looking in for jobs from people who are actually living there and know what daily life is like.

Here are my preferences:
1. Somewhere with decent teaching jobs, of course. I have about 1.5 years of experience, including a year in Korea teaching kids and volunteering at home teaching adults, a CELTA and a BA. I don't have a preference over teaching kids or adults, or both, though I would ideally like to find somewhere that would have a bit of teacher development.

*2. Somewhere to learn Chinese, preferably in a structured class.

3. Can save some money - doesn't have to be a lot (i.e. I don't expect to save as much as in Korea).

**4. Easy to meet people, both locals and other English speakers.

**5. Plenty of social activities available, other than just going out and drinking or playing poker. For example hiking groups, yoga, martial arts, movies, cooking classes, etc.

6. Fairly temperate weather, though I don't know if this is realistic. I'd rather cold than hot. I'm not a hot weather person at all, especially if it's hot and humid, though I don't like hot and dry that much either. Too hot to me is over 85 F or 30 C.

*7. A city that's easy to get around, without needing a scooter or car. I wouldn't mind needing a bicycle, but me on a scooter is dangerous and a car is too much hassle.

I think that's it for now. If anyone knows of good expat sites/forums for China or cities in China, those would be great too. I've found a couple for Shanghai, but they seem more international business people oriented. Thank you for reading and for any advice!

Edited to highlight my most important preferences.


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lf_aristotle69



Joined: 06 May 2006
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Location: HangZhou, China

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: New here - question on where to work Reply with quote

chickyabroad wrote:
I've been reading this forum for awhile, trying to research different places to work in China, but it's getting to be a bit overwhelming... I spent a month traveling around China almost 10 years ago, so my sense of Chinese geography is a bit shaky. (Plus, even with a month, we didn't get to see more than a tiny part of the country.) So I thought I would ask for some suggestions of what cities to start looking in for jobs from people who are actually living there and know what daily life is like.


I've posted China links on this recent Daves ESL Cafe thread. But, I guess you might not have seen it yet.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=650071#650071

Most of China cooks in summer. Often over 32C, many places have quite a lot of days over 35C. Even a long way north in BeiJing, for example, which has -10 - -15 degree winters, it also gets that hot.

Of the places I've actually lived. I can only suggest that ChangChun, way up north in JiLin province, might fit some/most of your criteria.

Of the places I've visited, I could suggest KunMing, or other places in YunNan province such as LiJiang and DaLi.

I'm not sure how hot they get in the middle of summer, but in GuangXi Province/SAR, YangShuo, GuiLin and also NanNing all were great in May. BeiHai was coastal and could be good, but I didn't get the impression that the local Government was interested in anything but exploiting the local environment in a very commercial way. And, the sea was full, I mean really FULL (sweep it out of the way with your hand EVERY step as you walk out in shallow water for 30-50m!), of all kinds of litter. They're going to have to lift their game if they're going to compete with Thailand, Bali and Australia as the Chinese tourists get more sophisticated... I doubt they'll bother though... a shame...

ZhuHai on the other hand could be good for you. But, again, I'm not sure how hot it'll get in summer.

I'd definitely recommend HangZhou in almost every aspect, especially the natural environment reaching right into the middle of the city. The only thing is that it's even hotter than ShangHai, with quite a lot of high temperature, humid days in summer. But, as I said, most of China cooks for 2 - 4 months...

Check out a weather information site for weather details. They should at least have major cities. e.g. www.weather.com

Good luck,

LFA
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chickyabroad



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for those links, that's great information.

From what I've already read and heard, I know I'm not likely to find my ideal weather in most of the major cities in China (or really anywhere else these days) so that's definitely not my main criteria for choosing a place. How would you say the places you suggest are for things like social activities and ease of meeting people, especially Changchun? I don't think I've noticed that city listed very often on job sites. What province is it in?
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Jeff3



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you say the places you suggest are for things like social activities and ease of meeting people, especially Changchun?
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I agree that for climate, Changchun is great, very dry humidity which makes the temperature extremes more comfortable. Lots of parks, clean air, and no stinky sewer smell like most "bigger" cities.
What kind of social activities are you thinking about? Not many foreigners there. If you like to go bowling, playing pool, (just as many woman as men in the pool halls) or KTV then you are in luck. Most of the foreigners there go to "The Mayflower" night club. Or take a walk in Nan Hu park. Like a miniature "Central Park" in New York. Except you really notice the presence of another foreigner.
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the places recommended in Guangxi Province are all good, it absolutely swelters in summer, with extreme humidity.
A city like Qingdao might meet your criteria. You should have no problem finding work anywhere. Universities will often arrange Chinese lessons for interested FTs, and short teaching hours mean you have lots of time to pursue other interests, even other work if desired.
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