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Gamushara84



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Not-so-new newbie questions :) Reply with quote

Hey guys (and gals?):

It looks like I'll be traveling to Indonesia to teach (pending interviews, ha!) and I just had a few questions. I'm sure they've been covered somewhere before, but a lot of the posts that I searched were from 2003, and I really want to get some updated information.

1. How would you say expat women are treated in Indonesia (specifically, Medan) with regards to dress and clothing? I'll admit, when it gets hot, I'll throw on some capris, sandals and a t-shirt. I realize that I will be teaching in a largely Muslim country, and it doesn't bother me to change my clothing to fit the culture--I just need a few tips figuring out what is kosher.

I know that I will be wearing dress slacks and (normally) a short-sleeved blouse (or the school clothing) to work. No problem there. I've looked online and tried to scope out Indonesian fashion, but I can't make heads or tails of what is appropriate. I guess somewhere in between conservative and "all out". What do you think?

2. How does drinking go over in Indonesia (especially in Medan). I'm not a huge drinker (those days are long gone) but I do like to occasionally have a glass of wine or sip a beer on my front porch in the late afternoon. Would you say this is culturally inappropriate? I could move indoors, of course, not a big deal, but I would like to know what other peoples' experiences have been with this type of thing. Is there a huge stigma associated with alcohol?

3. I am a vegetarian. Do you think this would be hard in Indonesia (again, especially in Medan). I have no problem changing my diet and will probably do so to try some Indonesian dishes, but is meat a huge item or "main dish" here?

4. Forceful opinions. Would you say being forceful is considered rude? I know very little about Indonesian culture, but would rather hear your first hand experiences than read some outdated web page from 1995. Have you found that Indonesians find you rude because you speak your mind or know what you want the moment it's asked? Have you found that Indonesians are unable to relate to you because you are too straightforward? I dislike the generalized tone of this question, but it's the only way I know how to ask, so bear with me. Smile

5. How is Bahasa Indonesia? Smile

Thanks for all your help! If you guys have any questions for me (lol) don't hesitate to ask.

Also: random shout-out to Amani. Razz
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Atoms for Peace



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Not-so-new newbie questions :) Reply with quote

Gamushara84 wrote:
1. How would you say expat women are treated in Indonesia (specifically, Medan) with regards to dress and clothing? I'll admit, when it gets hot, I'll throw on some capris, sandals and a t-shirt. I realize that I will be teaching in a largely Muslim country, and it doesn't bother me to change my clothing to fit the culture--I just need a few tips figuring out what is kosher.


Don't go strolling around in a bikini and you'll be fine. There aren't so many expats in Medan, so we stand out more, but "summer clothes" should be fine. By the way what the hell is a capri?

Gamushara84 wrote:
2. How does drinking go over in Indonesia (especially in Medan). I'm not a huge drinker (those days are long gone) but I do like to occasionally have a glass of wine or sip a beer on my front porch in the late afternoon. Would you say this is culturally inappropriate? I could move indoors, of course, not a big deal, but I would like to know what other peoples' experiences have been with this type of thing. Is there a huge stigma associated with alcohol?


There is a bar in Medan that a lot of teachers hang out at. Beer is freely available. Sip or slurp away!

3. I am a vegetarian. Do you think this would be hard in Indonesia (again, especially in Medan). I have no problem changing my diet and will probably do so to try some Indonesian dishes, but is meat a huge item or "main dish" here?

Gamushara84 wrote:
There is a large Indian community in Medan, so vegetarian food is available. You need to explicitly say "no meat" because at foodstalls because they have a habit of adding chicken (or eggs) out of consideration for your health!


Gamushara84 wrote:
4. Forceful opinions. Would you say being forceful is considered rude?


Not in Medan. One of the dominant ethnic groups here, the Bataks, are famous for telling it like it is. Obviously don't scream your head off at people, but stand your ground or you'll be overcharged, for example.

Gamushara84 wrote:
5. How is Bahasa Indonesia? Smile

Indonesian is a simple language, and it's very easy to pick up the basics and move on from there.

Best of luck.
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laughing_magpie06



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think unless you were going to cook your own food vegetarian dishes will be hard to find. They are not huge meat eaters and huge steaks are uncommon but fish, chicken and smaller beef dishes seem the norm.

Drinking in major cities seems okay. The hardest thing is to find a really cold one when you need it. Minimarts seem to have beer on the shelf (nice and warm yuk) but easier to go to an area with a bar.

You can speak your mind, you will mostly just get odd looks if they don't agree with you.
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malu



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The very fact that you're asking those questions and thinking about all those issues suggests to me that you'll get on in Indonesia just fine.

I also think Medan has a lot going for it as a home base.
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Amani Renas



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Not-so-new newbie questions :) Reply with quote

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Also: random shout-out to Amani. Razz


Holla Gamu!!! Smile


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I also think Medan has a lot going for it as a home base.


What do you mean by that? I'm gonna be in Medan for the year and that piked my interest...

-A. Twisted Evil
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Gamushara84



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys! I appreciate the comments. Smile If you can't tell, I'm probably going to be in Medan.

ETA: Capri pants, "capris" are:

Short



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Pretty basic. Smile
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malu



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I meant was that I think Medan is a very liveable kind of place. Sure, you don't see photos of downtown Medan on many holiday postcards and the nearest unspoiled white sand beach with swaying palm trees is some way off - but the truth is the holiday paradise type of environment isn't always a conducive place to live and work long term.

Medan has plenty of good places to eat and shop, the infrastructure is fairly coherent and transport connections to the rest of Indo and Malaysia are pretty good. It doesn't quite have the urban sprawl of Jakarta but at the same time it has clean a/c cinemas where you can catch the latest Hollywood films and supermarkets where you can buy a decent pot of yoghurt and a box of breakfast muesli if you really want it.
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Amani Renas



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

malu wrote:
What I meant was that I think Medan is a very liveable kind of place. Sure, you don't see photos of downtown Medan on many holiday postcards and the nearest unspoiled white sand beach with swaying palm trees is some way off - but the truth is the holiday paradise type of environment isn't always a conducive place to live and work long term.

Medan has plenty of good places to eat and shop, the infrastructure is fairly coherent and transport connections to the rest of Indo and Malaysia are pretty good. It doesn't quite have the urban sprawl of Jakarta but at the same time it has clean a/c cinemas where you can catch the latest Hollywood films and supermarkets where you can buy a decent pot of yoghurt and a box of breakfast muesli if you really want it.


Thanks!

Every time someone tells me more about Medan, I get more excited! It seems to me that the best of the bunch have taught there. It sounds like my type of city!

-A. Razz
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