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fimac
Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Different levels of jobs. Are my qualifications enough? |
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Hello Everyone!
I am a 23 year old Australian girl and I have just completed my Bachelor of Arts with majors in both Spanish and Anthropology as well as a Dip. ML in Italian. As part of my BA, I completed a semester in Guadalajara, Mexico and I am itching to going back on a more permanent basis.
When I go back to Mexico, I would like to teach English (I am not fussed about which city at this stage). I am looking into taking night classes for the CELTA certificate so I am able to obtain a job.
From what I have read in other posts, I think that my educational background along with the CELTA should be enough for me to teach English in Mexico. Being a newbie to the field, I am not sure about are the different levels and types of jobs in Mexico (eg. language schools, elementary schools etc.)
Could someone clarify the different levels/ teaching jobs available in Mexico (eg. language schools, elementary schools etc.) and what kind of qualifiction one needs to teach in each type (I understand this will vary a lot)?
Also, is it difficult getting a job with no previous experience in teaching?
Thanks for your time. I have done a few searches and read a lot of posts but haven't quite found out what I am looking for.
Regards,
Fi |
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veroax
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Bogot�, Colombia
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Work possibilities run the gamut really. Someone else can probably go into more detail than I can, but it sounds to me like you might be starting at a language school since you don't have much experience. That's often the lower end of the scale in terms of benefits, pay, etc. You definitely could get lucky though and land something better.
One consideration... You might think of doing a stink in a more lucrative country first in order to get some experience, get a higher credential, and bank a little money. That could make your transition to Mexico much easier. I say that particularly because it sounds like you're interested in Mexico as a longer-term possibility. I've been here nearly three years now and I don't see leaving anytime soon. And I occasionally wish that I had gone to Korea for a few years first to get a masters and save some money. Doing those sorts of things from here is challenge. On the other hand, if you're just looking for a yearlong Mexico experience, it would be a different story... |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with veroax,
You sound a lot like me (except for the Italian!)
I did my BA with majors Spanish/Political Science and a Certificate in Latin American Studies. I studied abroad (in Chile). After gradutation I went to work in Ecuador. I had a faboulous time, outside of my job. Then I got a TEFL certifcate and went to Japan. The school I worked for in Japan gave me a lot of support--almost too much as it ment very little freedom in the classroom, but I think as a new teacher the more support the better. I learned a lot and learned to really enjoy teaching. I was in Japan for 18 months and saved up a good chunk of money. Then I came to Mexico. Because I had experience, I landed a pretty good job--so good I've stayed at it for 10 years! I never thought I'd stay so long, but life caught up with me here and this is where my life is now.
I was and still am a huge Latinophile, I went to Japan for economic reasons and expecting nothing. Turns out Japan is an vibrant and interesting place, filled with ancient culture and modern bizarness. I'm not a Japanophile now and still perfer latin culture (I feel at home here) but I absolutely enjoyed every single day of life in Japan--which really surprised me. So just because you are itching to get back to Latin America, doesn't mean you wouldn't really enjoy someplace else. As an Australian, you should be able to get a working holiday visa for Japan. You can get some experience under your belt. See if you enjoy teaching. Learn everything you can from a well established school (including learning how NOT to do things ) Then AFTER working a year in Japan, get a CELTA and come to Mexico and land yourself a very good job. |
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fimac
Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks so much for your helpful responses. I guess for my first trip back I would like to travel around to re-aquaint myself with the country and perhaps stay for a year or so teaching, then travel a bit more around Central and South America. My main objective would be to have the qualification to work for experience (even volunteer work) and suss out the situation for longer term future employment opportunities.
Which countries (apart from Japan) have a the highest demand for ESL teachers and which are quite well paid? I am open to other destinations but I love my beloved Mexico and can't wait to get back! Although I am saving here before I leave, it may be a good idea to do a short stint in a more lucrative country. I know that I may well get there and never want to leave!
Again thanks so much for the helpful advice. Any more would be much appreciated.
On another note, what qualifications and amount of experience would one need to teach in an elementary school? MELEE and veroax- what types of schools are you teaching in? Are working visas hard to come by in Mexico? My student FM-3 was no problem, but I imagine a working vis may be a completely different story. |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| fimac wrote: |
| On another note, what qualifications and amount of experience would one need to teach in an elementary school? MELEE and veroax- what types of schools are you teaching in? Are working visas hard to come by in Mexico? My student FM-3 was no problem, but I imagine a working vis may be a completely different story. |
It depends on the elementary school, but you will likely at least need a bachelor degree (in any subject). Add experience to that, and even better. Be a qualified teacher, and you are likely in (although with no/limited experience, the "best-of-the-best" will still be off-limits for the time being).
Most elementary schools will help you with your FM3. They will have a lawyer who will do all of the running around, and paper filing for you, and the school will pay for the FM3. Of course, there are exceptions, and of course, you can try rearrange the deal if they don�t want to pay/help. |
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veroax
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Bogot�, Colombia
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I think the general consensus is that Korea is the best bet for new teachers who want to bank some money, but experiences there are very mixed. Taiwan sounds comparable financially. The Middle East can be more lucrative also, but generally requires more in terms of education and experience. I�ve never worked in those places though, so you�ll probably want to check their forums if that route appeals to you.
MELEE and I are both with the State University System of Oaxaca. You can find threads about SUNEO on here if you do a search. In our system things are done by the book, so our visas are sponsored (but not paid for) by the university, so it�s just a matter of getting the documents together and going to Immi. I guess some people encounter more difficulties in getting the FM3. And I�d say that that�s another reason why�if you really want to be here for a while�you should consider getting a bit of experience and a certificate of sorts beforehand. Landing a good job from the beginning can make all the difference.
But� as I said before, you might still find a good job with less experience. It sounds like there are some language schools in Mexico with decent reputations that gladly hire new teachers, and they might be a good way to gain some experience and learn about the array of opportunities here. And with some luck you might find something still better. (I did.) You certainly could come here straight away, as long as your expectations are realistic. |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| veroax wrote: |
| MELEE and I are both with the State University System of Oaxaca. You can find threads about SUNEO on here if you do a search. In our system things are done by the book, so our visas are sponsored (but not paid for) by the university, so it�s just a matter of getting the documents together and going to Immi. |
I find that interesting. Is this common? I thought most elementary/prepa/uni systems would pay for the FM3. |
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