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Pay withheld by former school, what now?

 
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daniel of blackmore



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Pay withheld by former school, what now? Reply with quote

My former school have withheld 10,000yen from my final wage packet. They seem to have deliberately mis-calculated what I should receive in order to screw me. I tried to explain to them today that they owe me another 10,000yen, at first they tried to fob me off with their "calculation" and when I pushed them they shouted at me that they are too busy and have no money. Funny thing is If they did indeed pay me what I`m entitled to the fact that they have no money right now should be of no consequence. So I understand that Nambu FWC cannot help former employees of companies, so where do I go now? I will keep trying to push them to give me my money but they will just keep shouting me down and telling me to come back when they are less busy, hoping that I will just give up and walk away. Could I even go to the police or is that too ridiculous? That`s what I`d do in my country but this is Japan and I am just a gaijin. By the way, I have of course retained my payslip to prove that I have been underpaid.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police won't be of help.

Call the Labor Standards Office.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What country do you hail from that police would get involved in a private wage dispute?
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you consult a lawyer?
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shuize



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kootvela wrote:
Why don't you consult a lawyer?

I'm not sure who'd laugh at him harder, the do-nothing Japanese police for interrupting their busy schedule of doing nothing or a Japanese lawyer for trying to get him to take a case over such a piddling sum of money.

JPY 10,000 is roughly USD 100.
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Hoser



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you do realize that 10,000 yen is only basically a hundred bucks don't you? While I would also feel screwed over and a little bitter I think all I would do is scream to the heavens about what a shitty school it was to any potential teachers looking for jobs. Oh and maybe throw a few eggs at their door.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piddling sum or not, shuize, if he is owed the money, don't you think he deserves it?

If he is in the right, it's companies like that one that count on meek and/or ignorant foreigners to do nothing, and then they get away with it every time.

Stop them.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lawyer's job is not to laugh, as far as I know. Plus, withheld money must be paid with a certain interest, I'm sure (in Lithuania this is 3% of the sum owed). Also, this is about teaching some scumbags a bit of respect towards employees!
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shuize



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Piddling sum or not, shuize, if he is owed the money, don't you think he deserves it?

I never said he should not get paid. Just that neither his idea of getting the police involved or Kootvela's idea of consulting a lawyer were going to do any good in this case.

Reviewing this thread, however, I think this whole story sounds a bit fishy.

Anyone living in Japan for more than a week knows the police don't do much more than stop bicycles. The part about the OP "pushing them" to pay and the company "shouting" at him, telling him they are "too busy" and to "come back later," doesn't really ring true to me either.

All this over 10,000 yen?

Kootvela wrote:
A lawyer's job is not to laugh, as far as I know.

It's not a lawyer's job to work for free, either. Which is basically what you'd be asking him to do in filing suit over 10,000 yen.

I'm not sure how things work in Lithuania, but here in Japan there's a pretty good chance you'd spend more on transportation just trying to get to the lawyer's office to ask him to take the case (which he wouldn't) than the whole thing is even worth.
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parrothead



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about going back "when they are less busy", and trying a more subtle approach. I find softer and less threatening language far more fruitful.

Say things like: "I understand you're busy, but if you have time this week to talk about the pay discrepency in my last paycheck, could we set up a time to talk about it?"
"I'd be happy to talk about postponing payment for a couple of weeks if that helps you with your current financial situation."

Especially with former employers, it's important to leave under at least hospitable terms. You never know when you will need to list them on a future resume or list of references.

The threat of a lwayer over this amount hardly seems worth it in the long run.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There also should be certain insitutions like labour inspection where you could-if the worst comes to the worst- call annonymously on trust line and inform about that.
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