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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the same lawyer as MO39 is using at the present. Since I was renewing an FM3 independente I only paid 2500 to the lawyer. But since I was one month late in renewal I had to pay a penalty here in DF of 530 pesos.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Phil_K. When you added "extra activities" to your FM2, what were they and did you have to present pieces of paper certifying that you were qualified to carry them out?


The "extra activities" was simply giving classes on my own account. I assume they thought I was already qualified as they had previously authorized me to work as a teacher. (I'm not qualified however, as I stated before). One condition of working by your own account is that they want to see your "alta en Hacienda", which is the piece of paper they give you in Hacienda which has your c�dula on it.

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Since both of you (notamiss and Phil_K) are married to Mexicans, I wonder if this helped you get your work authorization "tr�mites" taken care of more quickly than if you had been in my situation.


This has never been a factor, as we are only married by church, not by law. This is recognized by INM as union libre and doesn't carry with it any advantages.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
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Phil_K. When you added "extra activities" to your FM2, what were they and did you have to present pieces of paper certifying that you were qualified to carry them out?


The "extra activities" was simply giving classes on my own account. I assume they thought I was already qualified as they had previously authorized me to work as a teacher. (I'm not qualified however, as I stated before).


It's interesting that you didn't seem to have any trouble getting authorized to work as a teacher, despite, as you've mentioned, your lack of formal qualifications. I'm wondering why the lawyer I saw a few days ago told me that in spite of my three degrees and loads of teaching experience, it would be a bit tricky for him to get me my FM3. Any ideas about this?
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably to justify his fee Very Happy

I really don't know, although in the past, INM has asked the company wishing to employ me to "qualify" me... i.e. Write a letter to say that they consider me able to do the job. And that seemed be the only requirement. Of course, that would be difficult if you are going directly into the independent route, unless you have a contract with a company, and they could do the same.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Probably to justify his fee Very Happy

I really don't know, although in the past, INM has asked the company wishing to employ me to "qualify" me... i.e. Write a letter to say that they consider me able to do the job. And that seemed be the only requirement. Of course, that would be difficult if you are going directly into the independent route, unless you have a contract with a company, and they could do the same.


Regarding your first point, that's what I was thinking too.

Re point #2, I don't have a contract with a company, but another option for getting officially "qualified" has recently presented itself. So maybe I won't go with this lawyer after all, or maybe he'll lower his fee if I show him new documentary evidence of my TEFL qualifications. Rolling Eyes
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: accreditation Reply with quote

MO39
I know that the job experiences were years back but since you have worked as an ESL instructor in Boston and other places, why not get documentation to the effect that you were employed in the states as such?
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but another option for getting officially "qualified" has recently presented itself.


Not Santo Domingo by any chance? Very Happy Wink
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: accreditation Reply with quote

geaaronson wrote:
MO39
I know that the job experiences were years back but since you have worked as an ESL instructor in Boston and other places, why not get documentation to the effect that you were employed in the states as such?


I have fairly recent teaching experience to my credit, from one year ago, to be precise; that's not the problem. When I write about getting "qualified", I meant in the narrow sense of not having certified training in TEFL. Apparently, the INM is not very interested in teaching experience as much as it is in seeing pieces of paper that prove that you've studied TEFL or something closely related (a university degree or a certificate from a training program).
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
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but another option for getting officially "qualified" has recently presented itself.


Not Santo Domingo by any chance? Very Happy Wink


You've got me there - what's Santo Domingo? Confused
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what's Santo Domingo


It's where, in Mexico City, you get your wedding invitations printed up. It's also where you can have your degree from Harvard or your passport from the EU created. If it can be printed, they do it at Santo Domingo.


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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
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what's Santo Domingo


It's where, in Mexico City, you get your wedding invitations printed up. It's also where you can have your degree from Harvard or your passport from the EU created. If can be printed, they do it at Santo Domingo.


Oh, that Santo Domingo! I've been told it's a good place to get business cards printed up too though I never thought of having a TEFL certificate made to order. Hmm....
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guatetaliana



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Getting FM3 Info from INAMI? Reply with quote

I'm trying to help someone else find this info, but having little luck. We're trying to find the official statement from INM regarding what they would actually require a foreigner to present to be able to obtain and work under an FM3 visa. I know this generally involves the articles of incorporation from the sponsoring corporation, the offer letter/description of duties to be performed, plus related certificates and degrees proving the petitioner's qualifications for the job. However, I'm trying to find somewhere official that lays these out, straight from the Mexican government. The INAMI website seems to be a mess nowadays and I can't find it. Am I missing something?
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
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what's Santo Domingo


It's where, in Mexico City, you get your wedding invitations printed up. It's also where you can have your degree from Harvard or your passport from the EU created. If it can be printed, they do it at Santo Domingo.


Last time I checked, TEFL cert's were going for $600 pesos and a degree anywhere from $4,000 up to 8,000. As I understood it, for eight grand the degree is actually registered with the uni, the higher fee is a kickback to the office people to put you into the system, in case anyone checks you are legit.

Never did it myself, just curious Razz
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