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jfurgers

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 442 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Tinted windows on cars in the DF |
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Do any of you living in DF have a vehicle with tinted windows? I bought a 98 van that I'll be driving into Mexico with and the windows are tinted. The driver and passenger windows are OK. We can be seen, but the rest of the windows are pretty dark and I've heard that we won't have any problems and I've also heard that we may get stopped a lot.
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scottmx81

Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 64 Location: Morelia, Mexico.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Technically, tinted windows are against the reglamentos de transito of many states. So for having tinted windows is a legitimate reason for you to be pulled over by the traffic police officers. In my opinion confusion over this issue is behind some or many of the old "a corrupt traffic cop pulled me (or my friend, or a friend of a friend) over and hit me up for money for no reason at all!" type stories that we've all heard. But I've checked it out in the actual reglamentos de transito of several states, and it is definitely something that you can be fined for. Probably, if you keep your cool and don't go accusing the cop of corruption over it, he'll let you go after he takes a quick peek inside and has a short chit chat with you. In a country where it is not an uncommon occurrence for carloads of hit men to travel around armed to the teeth, it is understandable that tinted windows can be seen as a security threat. |
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Snowmeow
Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 24
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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They must be very brave cops, to be willing to take sneak peaks into carloads of hitmen armed to the teeth
Sorry, just had to say that
P.S. Are these not uncommon carloads of hitmen known to take foreign hostages? |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Snowmeow wrote: |
P.S. Are these not uncommon carloads of hitmen known to take foreign hostages? |
No. |
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jfurgers

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 442 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info all.We're thinking about taking the tint off before we leave but we're not sure. Anyone ever drive to DF with the starting point being Neavo Laredo? Any good highways around there? |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Take the tint off. Many of my students have been fined for having tinted windows out here in the sticks (SLP). |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Texas actually has fairly strick laws about tinted windows (my dad was stopped there once for this ) so if it's legal there... |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: |
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dixie wrote: |
Snowmeow wrote: |
P.S. Are these not uncommon carloads of hitmen known to take foreign hostages? |
No. |
Sometimes. Depends mostly on who you are and what you're doing. I beleive that most foreigners here are the victims of "Express" kidnappings. You are taking, often at gunpoint to various ATM's to clean out your accounts and then dumped out somewhere, usually alive and unharmed (if they killed you afterwards people would stopping giving them their PIN's and just get it over with much quicker or actually start resisting the crooks). The much scarier form of kidnapping where you are held for ransom normally happens to rich Mexicans and to foreign business people.
Oh yeah, gun control DOES NOT work. just take a look at Mexico. I would fill safer if I could carry a pistol like I used to do sometimes in the states...then again the criminals might just shoot first and then grab your cash...I still like being able to fight back.
To the OP: To avoid any problems and having to pay mordidas, just stay on the safe side and remove the tint. Or just ask the first Mexican cop that you meet what he thinks about it  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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I beleive that most foreigners here are the victims of "Express" kidnappings. |
Know any foreigners that have had this happen to them? I don't know any, but plenty of Mexicans I've met have. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I did hear about 2 Scots that had this experience, but as has been mentioned before, statistically Mexicans are a more likely target...
...maybe 'cos statistically there are more Mexicans than foreigners!!!
Can't be too careful though. |
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Snowmeow
Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 24
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't want to derail the OP's topic and I'm probably making more work for the moderator, but I see now that this sort of crime is mentioned specifically in the Travel Advisory for Mexico by both the US and Canada. I'll quote Canada's since I'm Canadian.
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en.asp?country=184000
Kidnappings
Kidnappings occur frequently in large urban areas. The most common practice involves thieves working in cooperation with, or posing as taxi drivers. The thieves force victims to withdraw money from ATMs with their debit or credit cards in exchange for their release. Kidnappers target both the wealthy and middle class. Foreigners are not specifically targeted.
Theft
Thefts occur regularly. You should dress down, avoid wearing or carrying expensive jewellery, and carry only small amounts of cash. In resort areas, leave your passport and valuables in your hotel safe, not in your hotel room or on the beach while you are swimming.
You should withdraw or exchange money at Automated Banking Machines (ABMs) or exchange bureaus (casas de cambio) during daylight hours only, and inside shops and malls rather than on the street. Keep your credit card in sight when paying.
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It's good to know that Guy doesn't know any foreign workers who have experienced this, because I figure Guy knows a ton of people  |
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