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adrianmark



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: International schools Reply with quote

I am trying to get my foot in the international school door.

I am an ESL teacher with 7 years experience. In order for me to work at an international school as an ESL teacher, could someone please tell me which qualification/s I would need?

Would any of these be acceptable?

MA in TESOL
CELTA
CELTYA

I would love to hear from other ESL teachers who are or have worked at international schools and know what qualifications/experience you have that enabled you to first get an interview and then be offered a job.

Many thanks for any info that can be provided.

Adrian
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could get into bilingual or international schools, my advice is just start emailing the schools. I'm the international British School in Peru, experience in teaching and Peru and persistence got me in the door. Email schools a couple of times, especially right before the school year as it's not uncommon for current teachers to leave at the last minutes.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=4556 go here for a list of international schools, you'll have to scroll down.

Usually CELTA courses and the like won't help too much, same for Masters courses. Schools usually require a teaching license in order to get a job. Though many places are flexible, especailly biligual schools or schools in not very popular places. THink about all the people who want to go to Spain or Italy, but there are probably less that want to go to Estonia. Apply to schools in those countries and you'll have a better chance.
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adrianmark



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the info.
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Marcoregano



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you mean the top rank international schools, QTS (qualified teacher status) would be essential i.e. state school certification from your home country - a PGCE or BEd in UK terms
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keepwalking



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really depends on where you want to go in the world. There's a wide range of schools which call themselves 'international'. As the poster above says, the top ones, the traditional schools who serve a wealthy ex-pat community have high expectations for qualifications and experience. That said, good schools in regions which don't pay the traditional ex-pat salary (you do okay but don't send money home to pay a mortgage) such as Latin America are more flexible in their approach.

I'd say you'd be considered in any of the international schools here in Peru.
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Looking for my place



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the exact same position as you. 7 year of ESl and looking to get my foot in the International door.. I did tons of research and contacted schools and the general response was to teach in a creditable international school, I needed to be a certified teacher. I sucked it up and went back to school full time for a year to get the certificate and now... well I am working in a credited International School.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking for my place wrote:
I was in the exact same position as you. 7 year of ESl and looking to get my foot in the International door.. I did tons of research and contacted schools and the general response was to teach in a creditable international school, I needed to be a certified teacher. I sucked it up and went back to school full time for a year to get the certificate and now... well I am working in a credited International School.


But I'm sure it was well worth it.
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BTSskytrain



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Intl. Schools Reply with quote

Qualifications typically include a BA in Education and certification. Having a couple of years of teaching experience is also a plus.

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And connections, who will tell you about openings before they-re actually posted.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
And connections, who will tell you about openings before they-re actually posted.

I second that. They will also most likely share some priviledged info like atmosphere, expectations, pay, etc.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus they back you up when they're making hiring decisions.
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The_Hanged_Man



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking for my place wrote:
I was in the exact same position as you. 7 year of ESl and looking to get my foot in the International door.. I did tons of research and contacted schools and the general response was to teach in a creditable international school, I needed to be a certified teacher. I sucked it up and went back to school full time for a year to get the certificate and now... well I am working in a credited International School.


This is exactly what I did too. Without the proper credentials you will have a very difficult time landing a job at a reputable school unless you can teach something like Physics or Calculus. Even then the best you could do is probably a 2nd tier school with most likely mediocre pay. In addition, all of colleagues who are qualified will look down their noses at you and make you feel like you haven't paid your dues. Finally, when you do decide to move on after a couple of years you will discover that your options would not have improved much.

If you are serious about teaching in international schools my suggestion is to suck it up for a couple of years to earn the credentials. Once you have that magical piece of paper all sorts of doors will open for you.
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Looking for my place



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My other advice is to really research the city you will be living in because most schools require a two year contract and breaking a contract and continuing your international career is near impossible. I began job searching for an international school right after my graduation in May and though I was so lucky to get a last minute contract offer. Problem is that the people are so conservative and closed here, and at the end of my first year, I feel like I am wasting valuable years. Research as much as you can and if at all possible, visit a potential city first.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking for my place wrote:
My other advice is to really research the city you will be living in because most schools require a two year contract and breaking a contract and continuing your international career is near impossible. I began job searching for an international school right after my graduation in May and though I was so lucky to get a last minute contract offer. Problem is that the people are so conservative and closed here, and at the end of my first year, I feel like I am wasting valuable years. Research as much as you can and if at all possible, visit a potential city first.


Not really, you can quit jobs. I've yet to be asked why I've left jobs early. Teachers come and go, people realise that.
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Looking for my place



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Nature Girl, Just wondering if your experience was within an accredited international school. I was up front and honest and was told that if I left I would not be given a letter of reference or recommendations. As previously mentioned, contacts are key and so in since my directors and principals have been in the game along time and know many people, I felt that my choice was pretty limited.
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