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Taiwan: Appallingly low salaries . . .
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funkystuff



Joined: 21 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Taiwan: Appallingly low salaries . . . Reply with quote

I recently stumbled across this very interesting thread at www.forumosa.com entilted "appallingly low salaries":

http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?t=69907

I suggest anyone who is planning to take up work in Taiwan, especially at a university, should take a look. Unfortunately, the thread is now locked, which is unfortunate since it was a very healthy discussion.

You might also wanna check out this thread too:

http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?t=70000
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romanworld



Joined: 27 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God, after reading these threads, I'll definitely be giving Taiwan a wide berth. Seems that the already low salaries haven't changed in yonks! I worked there years ago and I was getting more back then than tefl teachers are getting now . . . and things were much cheaper back in the good ole days. Sad
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funkystuff



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I was thinking about looking for a job in Taiwan because I'd heard that the pay was good, but at my age the money is what counts. I think I'll just stay on here in Thailand, where the job pays a little more than the $550 in Taiwan, but living costs appear to be way cheaper.
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forest1979



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Location: SE Asia

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

550NT/US$18 hour is appalling low. Sorry, what is the minimum wage in your state back home?
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Miyazaki



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan EFL salaries suck!

University salaries are low also.

If you want money better to go teach in Korea or Japan. Even China is more competitive these days than Taiwan.

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BJ



Joined: 03 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wages are low here thats for sure. They have changed little in 15 years. BAck then 500 NT an hour was the pay, these days 550 - 600 seems the norm.
Universotoes havnt had a pay increase in years as well, whilst priices have been going up steadily,
In ENgland I think minimum wage is near 6 pounds - 12 dollars, whilst 18 dosnt suck it is not that good either.
15 years ago 500 NT was worth around 12 pounds - 600 NT now is worth 10 pounds - thats the reality unfortunately.
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funkystuff



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend in Taiwan who works at a university and he tells me that it's hard to make ends meet these days. Sure, he says, $NT550 was OK 5 years ago, but now inflation is outta control and the money goes in a jiffy. As far as I know, Taipei is one of the most expensive cities in the world and rents in some areas are astronomical. So when you say that $NT550 is fine, think again. Not sure how long my friend will last. Says he wants to quit because he's so fed up with being unable to save anything.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Taiwanese are the cheapest people I've ever met in my life.


Yes, Taiwanese are so cheap. Some schools charge students by the month and students pay the same if there is a holiday or not but most schools don't pay teachers for holidays!!!
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MomCat



Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get this complaining. Wages here aren't a secret. Any level of research before coming over would let a potential teacher know what to expect. You get over here, make what you should have expected to make and then complain? Please!

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Even China is more competitive these days than Taiwan.
Give me a break. What delusion are you laboring under? Sure there are a few high paying jobs in China - just like there are here. But there are still a whole lot more schools that pay $800US. Oh right, you get a room - can we have a whoopee?

And wait, there's more. A poster's first and only post is used to tell us that they are not going to come here! Well, thank you for letting us know, please don't change your mind.

Am I the only one who thought that funkystuff and romanworld were just Aristotle and his alter ego trolling more poison.

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pest2



Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MomCat wrote:
I don't get this complaining. Wages here aren't a secret. Any level of research before coming over would let a potential teacher know what to expect. You get over here, make what you should have expected to make and then complain? Please!


The wages are no secret, but the living costs and other aspects of day to day life are certainly not the way they are usually represented by recruiters and schools looking for teachers to come to Taiwan. Those schools and recruiters do what Taiwanese in general do best in order to get teachers: manipulating representations of truth while doing business in order to get something for personal gain (some call it simply doing business dishonestly, but that seems over-simplified to me).

Go look at tealit.com or esl99.com and see the slick, well-oiled quality of those sites... And there are so