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Master Shake



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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Location: Colorado, USA

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: Working privately in the tri-cities Reply with quote

Is it possible for an US citizen to get an extended visa (6+ months) in Poland WITHOUT being sponsored by a language school?

I've got a year of experience teaching in Gdansk and am considering teaching privately this fall somewhere in the tri-cities. Dont really want to get tied-down to a language school - pay is too low and I want to make my own hours.

I remember reading something about having to start your own company in order to get permission to stay longer...
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dynow



Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one option would be to come to Poland and work for a school as a freelancer, but simply give them very limited availability. work 6 lessons a week or something, we have plenty of teachers at my school with similar availabilities. plus, as a native speaker, most schools will take what they can get. a few lessons a week is better than none if they're short on natives and have a few advanced classes, for example.

with that connection to a school, you can get a simple work contract or "promise" written up by the DOS and then just apply for a KB. whether you stay in Poland for 6 months, 10 months, whatever, you'll atleast be legal during that time.

without proof of employment from a Polish company, you may have a tough time. i would imagine you would have to have a substantial amount of cash to show for them to budge.
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scottie1113



Joined: 25 Oct 2004
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Location: Gdansk

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, Master Shake, why would you want to return to Poland? And by any chance would your first choice of cities be Gdynia?

But you posed a good question. I'll ask around and see what I can find out. I've got an American friend here-you never met him-who does just that, but he's married to a Polish woman so that helps. He does conversation 1:1's only and charges 50 zl an hour, and some weeks he does 40 hours. Do the math.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first choice?? Krakow all the way.

Go there and you'll see why, Old Timer.
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I heard from someone else who lives in Gdynia, but you mentioned the trojmiasto and last time I checked Krakow wasn't a part of it. BTW, May has been absolutely beautiful with almost no rain.

We miss you, kid.
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George Best



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Getting private lessons in the tri cities Reply with quote

I am not in Poland now, so I wont be competing for private lessons.I just wondered how to get private lessons in Poland.I heard that advertising on the net isn't that effective and that there are a lot of local Polish also competing for private lessons
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redsoxfan



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Location: Dystopia

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was always easy for me to pick up privates with a couple quick ads on the net. Actually, out of curiosity, I checked the ang.pl page for Poznan, and noticed that there are a couple guys offering lessons for 35 zl and 40 zl. Not cool. How is someone to advertise lessons for 50 or 60 zl (which is the going rate) when some guy is pretending to do the same job for so much less? There's absolutely no reason to charge 35 zl because there are privates a-plenty who will pay 50 or more. Besides, 35 zl for 60 min is about 27 zl for 45 minutes. Would these guys really do a 45 min lesson for 27 zl? That's about half the going rate. Clearly they have no qualifications nor do they have a clue, but the problem is that schools can figure that out and therefore not hire them--so they wouldn't really be driving down wages at decent schools because they wouldn't be working there in the first place. But private students don't know the difference.

Personally, I don't have such a huge stake in this because I don't like teaching privates--too unreliable and I don't like people coming over to my flat, nor am I willing to travel to theirs. Also, I like to pretend that I have a real job which is hard to do when you're just chatting for cash. Still, a lot of folks have a few privates to round out their salary, and undercutting the normal rates we get for privates is pretty lame. Actually it just looks desperate. The going rate in cities is at least 50 zl/60 min.
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Kootvela



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: Lithuania

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redsoxfan wrote:
It was always easy for me to pick up privates with a couple quick ads on the net. Actually, out of curiosity, I checked the ang.pl page for Poznan, and noticed that there are a couple guys offering lessons for 35 zl and 40 zl. Not cool. How is someone to advertise lessons for 50 or 60 zl (which is the going rate) when some guy is pretending to do the same job for so much less? There's absolutely no reason to charge 35 zl because there are privates a-plenty who will pay 50 or more. Besides, 35 zl for 60 min is about 27 zl for 45 minutes. Would these guys really do a 45 min lesson for 27 zl? That's about half the going rate. Clearly they have no qualifications nor do they have a clue, but the problem is that schools can figure that out and therefore not hire them--so they wouldn't really be driving down wages at decent schools because they wouldn't be working there in the first place. But private students don't know the difference.


I'd like to comment on the undercut rates because I have the same problem in Lithuania. I charge 60litas (that makes just about 60zlotas) for 1,5h of individual lesson. I also see that people advertise the same thing for as low as 10litas per clock hour. I assume these are mainly students or school teachers who want to boost up their grocery money because really the going rate is 50-60litas. What makes me climb up the wall is that some people call expecting to bargain down my rates by saying 'well there are cheapper teachers'- to which I say 'go ahead and good luck, you'll need it'.
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nocturnalme



Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey! George Best is still alive! But not in Poland ....
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nocturnalme



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant George 'TEFL' Best, obviously ....
Good to see you're still around too, MasterShake!
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dynow



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found that unless a private lesson is very